Steel Locking Pins For CB-6000

Sorry if this is a simple question, but I just received my CB-6000 and am absolutely delighted with it. The only slight disappointment for me is the plastic locking pins that come with the device; they feel quite easy to cut through, so they don’t give me that sense of being securely locked away and helpless like I hoped. Is there a supplier where I can find stainless steel versions??? Thanks in advance for your help…

> Is there a suppiler where I can get stainless steel pins??? Yes... and no. The reason you don't see stainless steel locking pins is that using anything other than the nylon/plastic ones supplied with the devices will void the warranty. Please note that the plastic pins allow for some flexibility when pulled or pushed, especially in snug jeans, etc. Constant movement without this give *might* cause stress fractures in the cage flange, or (less likely) in the cuff ring. Online retailers selling the CBxxxx series usually don't carry stainless pins because if they sell you a device and then a pin separately, and you return the device due to a defect, AL Enterprises might not warrant the returned cage. They could claim the cage broke because of your steel pins, regardless of whether that was actually true. You might wonder why I know all this so well. A few years ago, I made some stainless steel locking pins for myself, and others in the community asked about them too. With plans to set up a web store (a friend from the community helped me out), I ended up crafting quite a few in various sizes and sent several as samples to people. They look really nice—highly polished—and I also created matching sets of stainless steel spacers. Here's an image showing what they look like: Image The project never fully took off because a) PayPal began cracking down on almost any products considered adult-oriented, and business owners were finding their accounts seized or suspended. My partner was also hesitant about setting up online payments, b) The CB6000 started outselling the CB3000, and AL Enterprises standardized the locking pins for both models to be identical—which naturally meant my custom-made pins didn't quite fit. My made-to-order pins are 1/4" diameter round, while the newer style is roughly a 7mm x 5 mm oval. I modified my own CB6000 by carefully drilling a 1/4" hole through the cage section, but I hesitated to recommend that approach for everyone. Someone who can use tools should be fine, but I'd hate for someone to buy a drill at the hardware store and try forcing it through the cage, only to crack it or cause other issues. Anyway, we were somewhat stuck; while machining these pins to fit the new style was possible, it would have made them ridiculously expensive. I tried selling them in bulk directly to device resellers, but due to those reasons mentioned above, that didn't work out either. So now I have about 100 sets of these pins sitting in a box in my office, and I'm not sure what to do with them.:roll:

Those are lovely. Do you know anyone who makes steel cuff rings for a CB-6000?

Besides me, you mean? I guess I don't have a picture of the one I made. You could ask Mature Metal if they would make one. The one that I crafted is actually machined from solid 316 stainless steel stock. I think I once calculated how much it would cost to produce them in batches of 100, and it was probably between $20 and $30 each. MM could likely do something interesting with them too, but he uses 1/4" round stock, so it might not be exactly the same as the plastic ring.

> Atone wrote: > Those are sweet. Oh, and the top one with the lock through it? It has *two* holes—you know, for two locks. In case you have multiple keyholders. It was just an interesting idea at the time.:)

Very nice items Tom. I looked into finding steel pins for my CB6000s last year but came up empty-handed. Now I can see the potential problem of how much stress is placed on a plastic cage or ring when using steel pins versus plastic ones which give a little more. Spend a few days in a custom metal CD and you realize there really isn't any "give".

I should mention that I have stressed or cracked the plastic on my devices even without using steel pins. I also modified a 3k to reduce its give slightly. Additionally, I started using rubber O-rings to absorb some of the movement, which seems to help. I am one of the 19 people who actually bought a Fort a few years ago (a Chinese stainless steel clone of the 3k). Once locked in, there is *no* give at all, creating an entirely different sensation. It also adds almost a pound of weight hanging off me, so I only wear it on special occasions.:lol: The steel pins aren't inherently bad, but people who leave too much slack between the lock and the cage—or conversely, those who force the pin in tightly against the spacers—tend to crack something due to where the stress is concentrated.

Tom, If you're looking for a low-hassle way to sell the pins, check out Amazon's Fulfilled by Service. You create a product profile, bag and label your inventory, ship all your pins to an Amazon warehouse, and they appear listed on Amazon. Amazon processes orders and ships directly from their warehouse. For such tiny items as these pins, shelf space carrying costs would be minimal. Obviously you have a strong platform for marketing directly to the chastity community, so selling direct to customers is also viable. Those stainless steel pins just need good homes!

Wow, today I learned something new. The issue is that my current pins won't fit the newer style; both the updated CB3000 and the CB6000 (and likely the Curve as well) take oval-style pins. So, either I need to figure out a way to make them compatible, or... umm.... find another solution.