Alternative padlock options for Mature Metal equipment?

Mature Metal makes chastity devices that can be secured with a padlock placed sideways. It works, but I’m not crazy about the look and comfort of it. I’ve been searching for an alternative lock that aligns along the length of the cage, but haven’t come across one yet. Does anyone know of a suitable option? To show you; here is how the standard setup looks (image from Mature Metal’s site): jailbird2.jpg jailbird2.jpg (26.32 KiB) Viewed 9408 times Here is what I might be looking for: jail-bird-with-anti-pull-out-male-chastity-device-from-mature-metal.jpg jail-bird-with-anti-pull-out-male-chastity-device-from-mature-metal.jpg (48.15 KiB) Viewed 9408 times The task is to find a padlock model that fits this orientation. A regular padlock can’t make the turn, so I figure I need one with a longer, rounder, and thinner shank? Mature Metal’s devices also offer an optional security screw fitting. This gives the locked unit a very sleek profile, but as noted in this discussion: the archived discussion

I emailed William at MM about this exact issue to see if he could widen the hole enough so a padlock sits like it does on the CBxxxx models. He said that doing so makes the fit between the base ring and cage "sloppy." Using a thinner shank padlock would have the same effect. That being said, I asked if he'd be willing to modify my Jailbird by adding two alignment posts on either side of the locking post, similar to how CBxxxx models look. He replied that he couldn't do it. I also use the security screw and agree it has some downsides. We went back to using a padlock after all. It fits snugly, and as Atone mentioned in another thread, it provides something easy to grab when adjustments are needed. I once used a fine-tooth metal file on the edges of my lock, which significantly improved comfort for both of us.

Rounding off the edges of the padlock is a solid tip. I should do that myself. > He replied that by doing that the fit becomes "sloppy" between the base ring and the cage. That makes sense. I just hope MatureMetal can come up with a better locking mechanism.

Here is an image of a modification another member here did to their JB. He sent his JB to steelworxx in Germany specifically for the lock. I'd love to see MM come up with something similar Modified JB *Modified JB* AR7Gq.jpg (65.89 KiB) Viewed 9342 times

The problem is that the diameter of the lock hasp on MM devices is just a hair too large to allow enough "wiggle room" for the hasp to go around the corner between the holes in the base ring and the cage pin. Most smaller locks have a hasp with nearly the same diameter as the JB device's holes. I tried out a couple of different small locks and ran into the same problem with each one. Eventually, I went online to a Canadian company called Small Box Hardware ( ... SqG43F0688) and found some locks designed for small boxes (fitting the company name perfectly). I ordered the **G322** model (a heart-shaped lock), and while it is an improvement—it gets PART WAY around the corner—it still can't rotate fully down as I'd like. BUT... Looking at the **G362** lock, I see that the entire unit is smaller than my original **G322**. In fact, it's more than 1/4-inch narrower and 1/2-inch shorter. I SUSPECT that the hasp diameter will be proportionally smaller too (though I don't know for certain), which would allow it to fit "around the corner." If anyone with an MM device gets one and tests it, we'd all love to hear how it goes. These locks are NOT pricey at all... Less than $5.00 actually. There is a possible MECHANICAL fix as well, but it requires modifying the device (which I'm not really inclined to do even though I have the tools and technical skills). Basically, you need enough room in the cage holes for the lock hasp to "get around the corner" by making them just slightly larger. I DON'T THINK you'd need to modify the base ring post, only the cage holes. Regarding MM's comment about the fit getting a bit "sloppy," I completely agree. But I think you could minimize that issue by grinding away some metal just at the TOP of the cage holes. Then you can put the lock on while it is fully vertical and rotate it down until it lies flush with the cage. Hard to explain, but I see it clearly in my mind. I don't KNOW if this will work for sure, I just THINK it will. And personally, I'm not willing to try it myself. I'd get a smaller lock first! BTW: With my current **G322** lock, if you remove the cage from the base ring pin and thread the lock through the base ring pin alone, it fits perfectly. Good luck! Hope this helps!

I've seen those locks before and it seems a standard handcuff key might open them. Pretty good chance many of us here already own one.:o I know I do, and they aren't the fuzzy types.:lol:

> member_56a3d51043 wrote:I have seen those locks before and it appears that a standard handcuff key might get them open. > Pretty good chance many of us here own a pair.:o > I know I do and their not the fuzzy ones.:lol: Because our previous careers were in LE, we have several different types that use various keys...which can occasionally be a bit of an issue:roll:

After closely examining the lock I bought online, I absolutely agree that it would be quite easy to remove. The locking mechanism isn't very complicated at all. Not that I've ever seen "real" handcuff keys, but I don't doubt they could likely be used if small enough! Even with my current lock (which has a hasp too large to turn fully down with my JB), the key is really tiny. I can only imagine how much smaller the key would be for an even smaller lock. But that's beside the point. The lock and key are more about mind games (for me, at least). No doubt I could get just about any lock off—by one way or another—with my workshop and tool collection. Then there is the "pull out" possibility inherent in almost all trapped-ball devices. Yes, I know some devices (teeth, plugs, etc.) reduce or eliminate that risk, but I don't have or use those. For chastity between my wife and me, it's not like that. Final point: Simple lock, looks nice enough (wife likes the heart shape), and small size. With a larger lock, there are likely some "engineering fixes" you could apply to solve the issue.

> member_c618a9fed3 wrote:Final point: Simple lock, looks pretty nice (wife likes the heart shape), small. I agree > member_c618a9fed3 wrote:With a larget lock, there are probably some "engineering fixes" you could employ to solve the issue. Superglue:lol:

I really like the look of that heart-shaped lock! It would be great to know if someone finds one that fits the Mature Metal Jail Bird. We have the security screw version. ~Alex

> member_56a3d51043 wrote:This is a picture of a modification one of the members here did to their JB. He sent his JB to steelworxx in Germany for the lock. > I would love to see MM come up with something similar > AR7Gq.jpg

> member_15d31e3dbc wrote: > > member_56a3d51043 wrote:This is a picture of a modification one of the members here did to their JB. He sent his JB to steelworxx in Germany for the lock. > > I would love to see MM come up with something similar > > AR7Gq.jpg

While I like the security screw for daily wear, I do appreciate the concept of using a padlock during weekends or playtime from both symbolic and aesthetic angles. What I've noticed with my MM devices is that the padlock allows some side-to-side movement between the cage and base ring. This movement can create enough gap in the cage-to-ring connection to let one or both of my boys pop through, causing the device to fall off. The only way around this would be installing alignment pins, which are likely very difficult (at best) to fit.