Metal Security Screws for Mature Devices
I've noticed that a lot of men share my issue with the security screw on their Jailbird. The trouble stems from a flat screw head resting against a smaller,…
I’ve noticed that a lot of men share my issue with the security screw on their Jailbird. The trouble stems from a flat screw head resting against a smaller, curved surface. Contact is made at just two tiny points where the head meets the curved ring. Throughout the day, as the cage shifts in all directions, the screw gradually loosens up regardless of how tightly you initially tighten it. So, that security feature you paid extra for isn’t actually very secure.
WARNING DO NOT USE RED LOCTITE!! Red Locktite is designed for permanent applications and requires a very hot heat source to remove, which can severely burn your penis.
I believe they addressed this by perhaps countersinking the screw so that more of its surface area touches the ring. Even with that improvement, I find the screw sticks out enough to be grabbed with pliers and unscrewed. In fact, I can easily grip the rounded head with pliers, loosen it slightly, and then finish unscrewing it by hand. My approach is to apply Blue Loctite sparingly. It acts somewhat like liquid plastic. Used lightly, it stops the screw from backing out while still allowing you to remove it if needed, though it requires a bit more force. This works well enough for me.
Someone mentioned using Teflon tape, similar to what’s used on gas pipe threads. I’m not sure how hard that would make unscrewing compared to other methods. Just remember: if the screw gets stuck and won’t come out, you’re in trouble. However, since top-brand padlocks usually last longer than the device itself, it’s rare for a lock issue to arise; even then, small bolt cutters can handle it easily.
For now, I’m sticking with Blue Loctite, though I worry that using too much might make removal difficult given the small size of that little key and its limited gripping surface.
VinnieDee wrote: > I've noticed that a lot of men share my issue with the security screw on their Jailbird. The trouble stems from a flat screw head resting against a smaller, curved surface. Contact is made at just two tiny points where the head meets the curved ring. Throughout the day, as the cage shifts in all directions, the screw gradually loosens up regardless of how tightly you initially tighten it. So, that security feature you paid extra for isn't actually very secure. I've owned a Jailbird for nearly two years now. During that time, I've cycled through four different ring sizes (starting with a 1&3/4" single ring and currently using a 1&1/2" double ring) without any issues of the screw coming loose on any of them. Like you, my first JB came with the security screw. However, I didn't like how accessible the head was; yes, pliers could definitely remove it. I sent my cage back to be shortened and had them drill out the side where the screw sits. Technically speaking, they don't just countersink the hole but actually drill right through one side of the part that rests on the post attached to the base ring (you have to specify which side depending on whether you're right or left-handed). When fully inserted, the screw head presses directly against the post. The opening for the screw is the same size as the head itself, and on my cage, it's impossible to get pliers onto the head to loosen it. A bonus benefit of this modification is that because the side hole in the cage is much larger, it makes aligning the post hole with the cage easier when putting it on. VinnieDee wrote: > Someone mentioned using Teflon tape, similar to what's used on gas pipe threads. I'm not sure how hard that would make unscrewing compared to other methods. Just remember: if the screw gets stuck and won't come out, you're in trouble. Teflon tape is very thin and flexible. Wrapping it around the grooves of the screw fills them in when screwed tight, creating a tighter fit that prevents loosening. The tape stays flexible and doesn't dry out like glue, so if you can get it in initially, you'll be able to take it off (referring to the screw, not your situation).:lol: Aside from gas pipes, plumbers often use Teflon tape; for instance, wrapping threads on a shower head stops leaks while tightening it. Another fix some people use is placing a small drop of clear nail polish in the screw hole. Let it dry before inserting the screw, otherwise, it might act like glue and make removal difficult. I've heard occasional complaints about the JB screw loosening. Mistress M from MM noted that this happens sometimes and they have a fix for it. I'd suggest reaching out to her. For me, their customer service has been outstanding.
I've worn the Jail Bird with its security screw for over two years now. Only once or twice did the screw loosen on its own. We use an ultrasonic cleaner every few weeks to clean both the device and the screw. I think accumulated body oils get into the threads and act as a lubricant. Keeping those threads clean solved the problem for us (including the tapped threads in the post). For under $40, we got a reliable ultrasonic cleaner that handles everything.
I had my first two rings sized up and they added the screw at that time. Unfortunately, the hole in the ring didn't align perfectly with the hold in the cage. They suggested I could use a file to enlarge it, which I did. Afterward, the screw started backing out. This happens because I have a very short cage that moves even when slightly erect. My wife also enjoys playing with me while locked. Combined with the larger-than-normal hole in my ring, this allows some back-and-forth play that loosens the screw. MM did mention they could do what you described, but I was deep into an orgasm denial period and then we took a break, only restarting last month. I'd rather not send it back to MM unless absolutely necessary. It's not something I try to escape from often, so it's just an annoyance. I tighten it by hand each time and it holds for another day. The Blue Loctite is working well; I have half a tube left so I'll continue using that. You were right about the screw staying put. However, I do need to use a cleaning liquid occasionally to remove gunk from both the screw threads and the hole. I prefer the padlock option, but even its small extra weight can make the top of my penis sore.
I'm currently measuring for a Jail Bird and I'm torn between getting the security screw or the lock. After reading through this thread, I'm slightly concerned about just how secure that security screw really is... Question: If you order the device with a security screw, does it remain compatible with a regular lock? Is there a way to have both options without compromising either function?
Yes, you can still use the lock. My jb has both types. But if your screw hole is threaded, those threads eventually wear grooves into the locking mechanism, making it slightly harder to remove when engaged. The screw itself feels like a joke. Unless you apply loctite, you can wiggle the ring and cage until the screw loosens; even with blue loctite, a small flathead driver can unscrew it. It's not very secure. Many people ask "why would you want to unlock yourself at all?" To me, if I know I COULD open it, it loses some of its effect. If there is no way to remove it entirely, then chastity feels more 'enforced' and 'real'.
For what it's worth, MsM had a similar issue with the Contender security screw coming loose. This was especially true because She only tightened it using Her specially made necklace key rather than the hex key which provides more leverage. So when I reported the loosening, She arranged for a drilled-out screw (the hole goes completely through) along with stainless steel seals from the manufacturer. They produced these beautifully for Her. Now, even if the screw does come slightly loose (it hasn't because MsM used the hex key this time), it cannot fall out due to the seal which must be cut with side-cutters or similar tools. It's also possible to have both a security seal and a secondary hole for a padlock or as backup for a plastic one-time lock.
Hmmm, I like the low profile of the screw, but I think I prefer the security and psychological impact provided by a lock. Maybe having both would be nice... Is it possible to have two holes? Does that require a separate ring for one system or the other?
I believe having two holes is possible provided you're ordering custom.
I tried the nylon tape as suggested above and it works great. It's a bit of a pain to apply because it sticks to itself easily on that tiny screw, but after a few days, the screw remains in place. As always, I did some test runs with my other ring and screw to ensure I could still remove them. It takes longer now than when I could just unscrew by hand though. Thanks for the tip.
hello, you can also try 'liquid lock nut' which is a "Thread-locking fluid or threadlocker is a thin, single-component adhesive, applied to the threads of fasteners such as screws and bolts to prevent loosening". They make nuts with it built in (mostly for cars), but there's also the fluid version in a can. It transforms something you could turn by hand into something that NEEDS a wrench. And importantly, it is NOT glue and does not harden.
I have a Jailbird where the screw does get a little loose. I think this is due to erection pressure. We had two holes placed in the pin. One serves as the screw hole and the second is made for a lock. Recently, we discovered that I could actually escape using just my start key. But Mrs Cage pointed out that would be crossing the line. So now we use numbered plastic tabs. We place one of those into the lock hole to ensure it hasn't been removed. The plastic tab is lightweight, effective, and not visible through clothing.