Metal Cages With Closely Spaced Bars Available?

I picked up an MCN Contender. It has several strong points:

• The fit is excellent—I can wear it for four days with minimal discomfort.
• Sleeping isn’t a problem (unlike the CB6000S, which makes rest nearly impossible).
• It’s discreet; there’s no obvious bulge under khaki pants.
• I can perform my fairly intense yoga routine while wearing it, requiring only minor adjustments (keeping legs apart during forward bends and upward planks).
• Cleaning it is relatively straightforward.
• The security screw holds firm. (I attempted to remove it with pliers without success.) The main drawback for me: the device doesn’t make masturbation much harder. The cage bars are spaced widely enough that I can easily slip a finger between them. Getting off is simple—the device doesn’t really slow me down—and I don’t feel like I’m cheating (I haven’t removed my penis from the cage or used power tools). To be fair, humping while wearing the Contender does become significantly harder and less pleasant. It also makes any sex other than masturbation impossible. However, what I ideally want is a chastity device that raises the difficulty of all forms of masturbation considerably. (I know no device makes it completely impossible; you always need “the chastity device between my ears” to help.) Are there custom cages available with bars spaced closely enough that a finger won’t fit? The alternative would be a custom-fit unit with solid walls, similar to the Steelheart. I worry that smooth-walled devices might allow easy humping-based masturbation (unless they have significant downward curvature). I don’t feel ready for a PA yet.

I’m usually in a Contender too and had the same issue. Eventually I realized that the brain is really what stops masturbation. I’ve reached a point where being highly aroused feels much better than having an orgasm. To clarify, I still crave it and know it feels GREAT, but the aftereffects aren't worth those few seconds of pleasure! It’s like knowing being drunk can be fun but not wanting to deal with the hangover. Currently, I’m using this unit without a urethral probe ... 84297.html which has very close bars. However, I know I could still get off in it! I can get off in almost anything; I tried the HT2 for a tube effect, but that’s actually worse because being "held" makes it easier to jiggle and release. Honestly, I don’t think there is a perfect solution, or at least not an easy one. Any CD has limitations. The Contender is very well made, but you might find (as I do) that you simply pull out the back if we really want to cheat. Ultimately, this feels more about brain training than finding the ideal device. That said, there are many affordable, decent-quality CDs available—not as high-end as the Contender but good value—and it’s fun trying them! Also remembered: when the Contender was first introduced, someone here had one custom-made with a plate underneath to prevent touching in that specific area. Maybe that could help you. MsM's ld

> member_b195396d43 wrote: i really have reached the point where i feel MUCH better highly aroused than having an orgasm. Well, to clarify, i still crave the orgasm and know that feels GREAT but the aftereffects for me are simply not worth the few seconds of rush!! +1

> member_4c45d423ca wrote:I'm able to get off easily--the device doesn't even slow me down--and I can do so without doing anything I'd consider cheating (removing my penis from the cage, using power tools for stimulation). Cheating is cheating. If you intentionally release yourself, it's cheating. Consider this: when caught with someone else, try telling your partner that it wasn't real infidelity because it was just a hand job.

> member_b195396d43 wrote: > Just remembered too, when the Contender was first developed, somebody on here had one made with a plate underneath in the area you're talking about to stop touching, maybe that could work for you!! > MsM's ld That’s an interesting suggestion. I’ll investigate it. But my overall impression from this thread is that there probably isn’t a device out there doing exactly what I want a chastity device to do (though searching might be fun). Too bad! > member_75c78a1ec7 wrote: > Cheating is cheating. If you intentionally get off, it's cheating. Look at it this way. When caught with someone else, try telling your significant other that it wasn't cheating because you weren't fucking it was only a hand job. I’m in an open relationship. My partner would be indifferent to delighted if they caught me with someone else! Couples define their own terms and what counts as cheating for them. The same applies to chastity devices. Different couples (and individuals) have different reasons for using one. For us, the main point of a device is an exchange of *physical* control. Therefore, testing its effectiveness is part of the goal. It wouldn’t make sense for us to count every attempt at masturbation as cheating while wearing it. We can rule out certain methods (e.g., soap, power tools), but we must accept some attempts as legitimate. If your goals differ—for example, if you aim to heighten sexual tension—it makes sense that your rules about what counts as cheating would be different.

At this point, it sounds like only a full-sized chastity BELT would work (which I’d love one day once I’ve saved money and have a partner to play with). Or perhaps a tube with spikes. Both answers are somewhat extreme, but you seem to want an extreme solution (and even those aren't perfect). Some of the mistress Lori tubes cover more area, though not everything. Another idea, depending on your lifestyle and activity level, might be leather locking underwear placed over the Contender, provided you can urinate. It should make it very hard to do anything other than feel pressure without using a vibrator. It will get sweaty and need daily cleaning, but if you only wear it when away from your keyholder, it could work. And honestly, getting a PA isn’t that big of a deal. I know it seems odd; I’m quite vanilla with no tattoos or piercings myself (I even had issues with needles at the doctor), yet I found getting my PA pretty easy—it’s uncomfortable for a moment, then there's "Ouch!", and you're done. One option I considered was a cap device hooked through the PA, paired with a Kali teeth bracelet on the shaft; this would make masturbation harder and erections more challenging, without needing a base ring. Good luck with your search.

Steelworxx can customize a Looker for you by adding more bars. I had one done personally; the cage remained open, but the extra bars made touching myself impossible.

I also started with the Contender. I can't easily cum in it, but it is possible. In my case, the Contender keeps me in line when my wife is home, but I need more restriction during her trips. For that, I now use the watchful mistress. I don’t see any way I could cum while wearing that one.

I recently acquired a device with a very small internal diameter (under 1-1/8"), and I lack enough travel (slip) to get off. While it’s tricky to put on, once secured, my loose skin bulges slightly out of the rings. These rings effectively grip my shaft, preventing sufficient stimulation when I try to jiggle and rub in the shower while soaping up. This might be an option for you—preventing movement or slippage between the cage and your flesh.

I just got a Jail Bird and have the same problem. I can bring myself to a satisfying orgasm in seconds. I was hoping this would be an improvement over my somewhat ill-fitting CB6000s, but it’s actually easier to get off despite fitting better. I’m impressed with the build quality, but disappointed by its effectiveness (not criticizing Mature Metal... I guess I just have sensitive man-bits). I'm already planning my next move. I might try a smaller size, although I did extensive research on measurements and seem to have a good snug fit according to conventional wisdom... I’m not sure stuffing myself into a smaller JB will help much. My other option is trying a custom device with a closed cage design for less access. However, since I can cum easily in my CB6000s by stimulating against the smooth inside of the cage, that might not work either. Neither possibility makes me thrilled, but would a PA or urethral insert actually make it harder to reach orgasm? I’m exactly like you OP... I get turned on by the physical power exchange. Wanting/trying to get off but being unable to do so. I realize no device can completely prevent release, but without some deterrence there’s almost no point for me. So far, I'm really disappointed with the effectiveness of both devices I've tried...