KHEmmi Emmie Chronicles

Why not? Here is my perspective on the life of Emmi (KHEmmi) and Herbi (KnownAsHerbert). The structure will be looser than Herbi’s, with random thoughts shared as they occur to me—that’s just how I am! Let us begin by noting that we are a few days away from completing our first month together. It has been such a wonderful experience so far. It was challenging for Herbi, but it is what he desired. I feel fortunate to be part of it.

Well done, Emm. I really appreciate the "unstructured random thoughts" approach you've taken.

I noticed that Herbi mentioned here he felt "ready for 24/7," yet he hadn't told me directly. Then yesterday, he said something about "maybe time to go down a ring size" again, still without checking with me first. Of course, he doesn’t have to ask permission, but consider this my inaugural "random thought" on my brand new blog: "I'll add an extra day for not sharing your thoughts with me before posting them here." It could even be two days since you did it twice, but I’ll show some leniency this time.

Oh no! Wait... What?

One of the best perks when he works from home is our relaxed lunch together. Today I made some toasties and called him over once they were ready. It was a good opportunity to check how he’s adjusting to the new ring. He said it felt fine but suggested I double-check later? I agreed. I hadn’t told him about adding that extra day, nor did I bring it up at lunch, though I knew he wanted to say something eventually. And then he did. "Ermm, I saw your post from earlier." "Ok, which one?" "The one about adding a day. I'm sorry for not mentioning those things to you first. I didn't realize it was important to you that I do so." He didn’t squirm much at all. I told him it was okay but acknowledged that details like this matter. A good relationship depends on clear communication, after all. I added that we are both learning along the way. We shared a nice hug before he returned upstairs to continue working. He knows now that I am serious about adding days when necessary. He has some lessons left to learn.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:33 am > He's got to learn. :shock:

It was a shock for Herbi to get that extra night added yesterday, but I think the bigger surprise is him realizing that I truly meant it. Today he went off to work securely in his nub and must send updates via text so I know everything is fine. He knows that forgetting these texts counts as breaking rules and will result in more extra nights, so hopefully, last night’s shock serves as a good reminder too. He has been behaving well though. He remembered to message already: "Just getting ready for 9:30 meeting, hence the early message. Just to say no problems with the Nub. It's all fine and doing its job perfectly. xxx" The meetings today were going to drag on a bit in his view. I wonder if another text might be welcome to give him something else to focus on. I have one more coffee before tackling some of my own tasks for the day.

He will be in the middle of a meeting now and probably bored since he didn’t really feel the need to attend anyway. I couldn't resist sending him a quick message and am eager to see his reaction. My text read: "If you could go somewhere private, masturbate and come right now, would you?"

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:19 am > He will be mid-meeting now and probably bored because he didn't really feel the need to be in it anyway. Couldnt resist sending him a quick message and can't wait to hear his reaction. I put "If you could go somewhere private, masturbate and come right now, would you?" Yeah, thanks for that, Emm

For Herbi and me, April 1st is the date we began. We had been discussing and planning it beforehand, and I believe he actually got locked in on April 3rd, but we take April Fools' Day (Haha!) as our *official* start. That means yesterday marked one full month into this journey, and I truly feel that we can make it work this time. A couple of years ago, our experiment failed. This time is very different. The success lies in the fact that he has a suitable device: the 3D Cobra 'Nub', now known simply as 'the Nub' in our house. He wears it full-time, removing it only occasionally for cleaning and health checks. He tells me it’s comfortable; sometimes he forgets it is there, causing no trouble aside from intense frustration. I know it drives him wild, but he is doing really well. He knows that if he misbehaves or breaks rules, his time in the Nub will be extended, so he behaves quite nicely. I am actually enjoying my role this round as well. I receive plenty of attention when I want and need it; I can come whenever I please; and we are both learning (as always). It works really well. One thing I have learned is that the key controls more than just his cock and sex life. It puts me in charge of everything else too. He no longer refuses to help with chores like changing bedding or washing dishes. He helps willingly and cheerfully because he knows if he doesn’t, the key stays away for a while longer. It’s almost as if the Nub has guided us into a full-blown FLR, even though that wasn't my original intention. Honestly, I hadn’t thought much about it before. But now, finding it hard to separate using the Nub for sexual control versus controlling other aspects of our lives, I don’t really want to try. He has a few more days (he doesn’t know exactly how many) until his next release. When that time arrives, he will get his orgasm (just one), likely through PIV, and will be locked up again soon after—probably no longer than two hours—with supervision to ensure he doesn't come again. It has been an intense, fascinating, amazing month for me, and I am loving it. I’m pretty sure Herbi is enjoying it in his own way too, despite being frustrated out of his mind.

Nice piece of writing, Emmie. I always enjoy reading your posts. I agree with what you say about the difficulty in separating sex from everything else under your control. We’ve been steered into an FLR situation. I get that.

I'm so jealous... you're a very lucky man indeed.

Herbi had a poor night’s sleep last night with several disruptions. He woke me at one point (unintentionally, so no consequences for him), and I asked if everything was okay. He said it was, but I could tell he was struggling in more ways than one. I think he might have been on the verge of asking to be unlocked, but thought better of it. If he had asked, it would have been easy to give in: unlock him, provide relief, perhaps even abandon the Nub and the whole project entirely. But having read enough here, I know his experience is 'normal' and giving in wouldn't be the right answer. The correct response would have been to tell him he must put up with it, adding extra nights to his locked time for asking. I am determined enough to make this work that I would have chosen the right path. Fortunately for him, he didn’t ask. Me: Sorry you're having a bad night, honey. Just a few more nights left, eh? Herbs: Yeah, ok. Go back to sleep, Emm. I'll manage.

I'm glad Herbi is working from home today because he seems really tired. Driving to work would be a worry for him now. He says he’s okay, but fatigue will likely build as the day progresses. At least tomorrow is the weekend; we can both take it easy and rest. To start the weekend early, I’ll cook us something special this evening. Perhaps let him soak in the bathtub while I prepare things. It could even become a lovely romantic indoor evening with candles, wine, etc., allowing him to unwind properly. That’s what I’ve decided on. He will enjoy his evening, though there will be some teasing involved. The 'CFnm' routine is a good start from the moment he finishes bathing; it gets him ready for the weekend in earnest. I do like CFnm. I just need to find something for me to wear that he’ll enjoy looking at while we eat. I expect attention at bedtime as thanks for his lovely meal and evening. I might end up being quite demanding, but once he does what is required, he can cuddle me to sleep. There’s no rush tomorrow morning, so he can sleep in if he wishes.

I took lunch upstairs today so Herbi and I could sit down to eat together. One of the nice things about him working from home sometimes. Over lunch (which was pizza, by the way)... Me: Something I want to ask you. Herb: Go ahead. What is it? Me: Well, we recently gave the smallest ring a trial run. The thing is, I completely forgot that you were wearing it! We never switched back to your normal ring. I'm so sorry. I meant to ask how it felt. Herb: Oh. Well. Actually, until you mentioned it just now, I’d forgotten about it too. It seems the smallest No. 1 ring is so comfortable there’s no need to go back to the old one. It causes no problems and he is happy with it. One decision we don’t have to worry about!

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 3:45 am > I'm glad Herbi is working from home today as I think he's really tired. Driving to work would be a worry. He says he's ok but he's only going to get more tired as the day goes on. At least it's the weekend tomorrow and we can both take it easy and get some rest. > To get the weekend started early I'll cook us something special for this evening, let him have a soak in the bathtub while I'm preparing it perhaps. I might even make it a lovely romantic evening indoors by going for candles, wine etc. and let him enjoy unwinding. I think that's my mind made up actually. > He'll enjoy his evening, but it won't be without teasing. The 'CFnm' thing would be a nice start, from the moment he finishes his bath. He'll be ready for the weekend properly then. I do like CFnm. I just need to find something for me to wear that he can enjoy looking at as we eat. > I'll want attention at bedtime in return for his lovely meal and evening of course. I might end up being rather demanding and once he's done what is required, he can cuddle me to sleep. There's no rush to get up tomorrow morning so he can sleep in late if he wants to. I just finished work today a bit early; everything is packed away and logged off as I read this. It looks like my evening is all mapped out for me thanks to Emmi. Sounds challenging but lovely. Candles, wine, food, and Emmi in control. I'm already hard.

Herbi had his lovely evening and was very grateful. He remained locked of course—another few nights before ***that*** happens—but he enjoyed himself nonetheless. So did I. The washing up awaits this morning, but he will do it willingly as usual. He has already made me breakfast in bed, which is our weekend routine now. It’s a luxury for me and provided gladly by my caged male. I really like this new chastity-based lifestyle. Another fun element for me is keeping him naked at the weekends when we aren’t going out or expecting visitors. I stay clothed but get to watch him go about his day, caring for me and doing whatever else he needs to do, caged yet nude. It’s called CFnm (Clothed Female, Naked Male), a term I only learned since joining this forum. I quite like it. The good news for today is that we have no plans to go out or receive visitors.

Herbi has learned *exactly* how the Kneel command works today. He now knows that "Hang on..." and "Just a minute..." are **not** acceptable responses. Kneeling must be obeyed **immediately**! We’ll try again tomorrow.

I think it’s called learning the hard way

So where are we now that one month has passed? Well, we have definitely moved past the trial phase. We’ve settled on the 3D Cobra Nub and both of us are completely happy with it. After switching to the smaller ring, Herbs even forgot he’d changed down—it was so comfortable there was no need to return to the original. He has gotten used to wearing the Nub 24/7; sleeping in it is improving greatly. Granted, there’s a lot of frustration for him at night, but it isn’t causing massive sleep disturbances anymore. It is comfortable enough that he can sleep in any normal position without pain or discomfort. He handles daytime wear easily and has even admitted to liking the feeling of it being there. I definitely like it too; it feels so small and tight. It’s lovely seeing his cock bulging through each little hole in the cage when aroused, and nice feeling the ring tucked high behind his balls, keeping everything safe and secure. That covers the physical side. What about the lifestyle and emotional aspects of living with this? I’m very pleased to say that this area is equally positive. Herbi has quickly adapted to the 'no asking' rule; he knows not to moan or complain about his locked status or the frustration, remaining attentive to me constantly. The new 'Kneel' command became established without much delay. I dress to please and to tease. I know the sight of the key around my neck teases him too. I deliberately made the chain long enough so it lies low between my breasts, drawing his eyes upward. It’s powerful stuff, isn’t it? Neck rubs, back massages, full body massages... he is there ready and willing. He knows he won't come, yet he is generous in giving love and attention. More than before the Nub? I have to say he has always been kind and loving, but I can still see ways that the Nub has enhanced his attitude and awareness of my needs. It’s subtle, but it is there. Orgasms for me? Plenty. Whenever I want them. We both know he cannot really refuse, yet there hasn’t been a hint that he even wants to resist. Must drive him wild at times I guess because he gets aroused every single time. Keeping him naked while I am clothed—is that weird? Not in my opinion. I certainly enjoy it, but the real benefit (I think) is the reminder it sends him: I have the power now. He has handed over everything—not just access to his cock, but what he does and says, maybe even what he thinks. He is approaching two solid weeks now, with a few more nights before release. He still doesn’t know exactly when. I think he has done very well getting through two weeks with only two 'penalty' nights added on. No repeats of those slip-ups mean the strategy works! Hopefully no more penalties so he can come soon. I really want him to, and I want him to enjoy it. He knows he will get only one orgasm before being locked up again. He might be disappointed by that limit, but hasn't voiced it. Is he happy? Am I? I think it is true and fair to say that at this point in the journey (no, let’s call it an adventure), we are both happier since the Nub entered our lives. We have always been close; now we are closer still. I am amazed by how far we have come in just one month.

It is amazing to think that we’ve only been doing this for a month and had the Nub for just three weeks. Already, Herbs has managed (or will have by tomorrow) a two-week stretch without release (except for cleaning). I really didn’t expect it to happen so quickly. Now thinking ahead: he’ll be unlocked soon (only a few more nights left, Hehehe), then locked again. He’ll have completed a sting of 7 nights, followed by this two weeks (plus a little extra for penalty days). So what next? I haven’t decided yet, but I intend to increase the length of time between his orgasms. The phrase "You once a month" comes to mind...

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 8:34 am > The phrase "You once a month" comes to mind... Sorry Herb. That was C's phrase. Don't blame me:shock:

I think I may have teased Herbi a bit too much with the five options (a) through (e) for him to choose from when he is unlocked. He had a poor night and hasn’t slept enough, waking up aroused and very frustrated, his mind "frazzled" (his word). We both have busy days today. At least he’s working at home. Once work is done, we have nothing planned for the evening and can relax.

Fwiw my suggestion would be to make decisions for him. By all means tell him what choices you are considering, but he gets what YOU say, not necessarily what he asks for! MsM’s ld

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 2:56 am > I think I might have gone a bit too far, teasing Herbi with the five options (a) through (e) for him to choose from when he's unlocked. Of course Herbert has a choice stress, because he can choose how he comes. You can say that if he chooses one of them, the other options remain open for next time. But it is up to you to determine the rules of the game and up to him to go along with them. You can also come up with a game with all those options, dice, or card game. And then it becomes one of those choices. Then you don't decide, and neither does he, that's what the game does.

> slave d wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 5:56 am > Fwiw my suggestion would be to make decisions for him. By all means tell him what choices you may be considering but he gets what YOU say not what he asks for! > MsM’s ld I did take notice of your message, slave d, but couldn't reply on here because he would have read it. Now that he's been released and had his fun (and got locked back in) it doesn't matter that he sees what I write. When the time came, yesterday, I didn't actually mention the choices again. I just told him what to do. Of course, he obeyed. 8-) By asking him what he would choose a few days before his release, I was just giving him something to think about. He thought that when the time did come he was actually going to have to choose.:D:D:D

> waki86 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 8:48 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 2:56 am > > I think I might have gone a bit too far, teasing Herbi with the five options (a) through (e) for him to choose from when he's unlocked. > Of course Herbert has a choice stress, because he can choose how he comes. So he got all the stress but still didn't get the choice anyway.

Warm & humid day so a very lazy one for us. Herb's being generally well behaved. Only caught him touching his balls twice so far today. The new rule disallows this. On the other hand, whenever I've said 'Kneel' he's been on his knees before the sound of the word has even died away. He learnt that one quickly!

Herbs was awake several times in the night. Powerful & persistent apparently. I thought that PIV on Thursday would have calmed him down for a little while but I gather that being allowed to come just once isn't enough to do that. If anything, sex seems to have made it worse!

I’m sure Herbs won’t thank me for this but if he’s anything like me he’ll get better and better with longer and longer until eventually he (and You of course being the most important) recognise that his best level is enjoying your sexual release not his own. That way he will be come more and more aroused until he reaches an amazing point where he really doesn’t want to cum because it will just reduce his arousal level, sounds counterintuitive but it’s true! MsM’s ld

Better and better with longer and longer sounds good to me! Seriously, though, he did have a rough night. The day's not so warm and sunny today, and there's nothing we have to do. Just another easy day at home to look forward to. As Herbi guessed correctly, no clothes (for him, I mean) and no touching of balls allowed. Going to break him of that habit!

I was surprised to find that we were already into week 7 of our adventure. It's gone quickly. Herb is in his third “proper” stint of locked up. The first was 7 nights. The second 16. This one will be longer. He might get one more orgasm before May ends if he behaves himself properly. He is adapting well to his cage but has difficult nights sometimes. He is doing well at keeping me happy though. A couple of extra nights added for little mistakes but he's learning fast. And I ***am*** happy. Before we started out journey I had read up a lot and found out as much as I could. Much of it was about choosing our first device (which we got wrong) but I also read about a lot of different experiences from others. Gathered a lot of ideas that I wanted to try out when the time came. Herbi didn't know quite how much I had read. He got a bit of a shock when he found out. I was positive about going into this whole thing too. He didn't have to convince me. We had tried before, a few years ago and failed and until now hadn't really felt like trying again. But looking online for other 'toys' (we've always been into bondage) it was impossible not to find chastity items and we found ourselves browsing. Almost jokingly, I had said “If you don't behanve yourself, I'll buy *you* one of these” pointing to a random cage on the webpage. When he didn't outright refuse or object, I knew there was something to pursue here. So I continued browsing and learning (privately without his knowledge) and returned to the subject a few days later. That was really how we decided to try again. Perhaps I should have posted this 7 weeks ago when we started but Herbi's thread is the logical structured one. Mine is more random and sort of filling in the holes and cracks in the story. Once the decision was made it was clear in my mind what we had to do. We had to make this a proper trial. Not a couple of days here and there and dropping the whole thing because of a few little difficulties or because he got fed up with it. I made up my mind that a year would be a sensible length of time to experiement, starting with short periods of himm being locked up but gradually increasing. And that's where we are and what we are doing. I am still committed to a thorough trial for a full year. He gets frustrated and may well get bored but he's not giving up that easily. My job is to make sure of that. Like I said at the start of this post. Here we are in week 7 already.

It's nice to feel that we are getting somewhere, and nice to read comments that support our view. I feel that Herbi is adjusting well to his cage. I feel that I am finding my role. Looking back, when he woke me in the middle of the night, it's really quite funny but it didn't feel funny at the time. My reaction was to tell him that I was going to make him wait until June for his next orgasm. His last orgasm was on the 9th of May and I was going to allow another before the end of the month. Now that I've calmed down and thought it over, I still think the 1st June is a pretty good idea. It will mean he's worn the Nub for 23 consecutive nights, and that's a nice step up from 16, his previous record. Looking at the first of June then, unless he messes up and earns extra nights. No excuse because he knows the rules. I do love the texts that he sends when he's had to go into work. He is required to let me know if there's any problems with his cage, but also I ask for updates about how he's getting on with it. Today, he's sent “Nub being kept busy and is doing a fine job”

Herbi seemed to accept the 1st June decision without upset or annoyance. Maybe he genuinely didn't mind or perhaps just knew he had no say in the matter. A very calm "Ok, I understand". He also took news of a new one-word command that I decided to introduce. I keep Herbi naked at weekends, telling him that he "doesn't need clothes today". Recently, he hasn't even needed to be told. But as of yesterday evening, he knows that on the command of "strip" he has to do just that. Immediately and without question. Whatever we happen to be doing at the time. So I tried it out as he was washing up after our dinner. I walked up behind him and issued the word. He dried his hands (allowable in the circumstances I think) and took off his clothes right there in the kitchen. Just as he knew he had to. I waited for him in the living room then and soon as he came back from the kitchen, nicely naked and cage just as nicely on show. I like the new command;) Thanks to the person who suggested it! Another one-word command followed a short while after. "Kneel". I like that one too.

This journey is tiring, isn't it? I feel like there's so much going on and there's so much to it, but at the same time we have achieved a lot and already 7 weeks have passed. Nearly two months into the journey, or trial, or experiment, whatever we want to call it. I decided that this stage would last a year. Long enough to know whether it was really for us or not. I don't want to quit any sooner. I see it as my job to make sure that Herbi doesn't give up either. Writing tonight just to collect my thoughts and have a little review of my own. Sometimes we review together but this one is just for me. Herbi has a technology curfew where he's not allowed phone or computer use after a certain time in the evening. So he's having a soak in the tub instead, winding down, ready to get some sleep before work tomorrow. That gives me time for my own thoughts. Herbi didn't expect all the rules and consequences that I've introduced. He's admitted that on the forum. I think they are sensible and useful though. Wearing his cage isn't just about controlling his cock but about me being in control of ***him***. He's going to learn that. That's what the consequences are for. I've been called strict but I don't think it would work if I was half-hearted about it. So we have technology curfews and commands and rules to obey. With consequences for rule-breaks. Another part of my job is conditioning him to accept his new way of life. It's tiring but I think I am on the right track. He's got to go into the office for the next three days so that will give me a bit more time to re-focus and think about how it's going. It's three days for him to be focused on work, rather than our experiment, and that might be useful. I think he's finding the weekends rather intense so it might be nice to escape to his office! I am aware that Herbi is finding the whole lifestyle change hard going too but maybe 7 weeks is still early days and it will get easier for him. Many nights of disturbed sleep isn't good but there have been some better ones recently so perhaps he is adjusting. I know I must watch him carefully and look for tell-tale signs of trouble, emotional as well as physical, so that I can nip them in the bud and keep everything positive. Despite being intensely frustrated (sexually) he has been remarkable in accepting and adjusting to my demands. In truth, he has little choice, but there have been no outbursts or upsets or displays of anger so far. Yes, I think we are both on the right track. It's been useful to use his bathtime to gather my thoughts and write this.

Emmie I for one just live reading your journal (it’s the only one I do these days). To see things from the other side is great from my perspective and honestly I’m super impressed at your understanding and insight when it comes to “learning the ropes”. I think you’re right on the button so far and would have loved to have started our journey (10 years ago) in such a positive way. Anyway, just wanted to pass that along, fwiw after 10 years skin in the game I’d be happy to help with anything if you want to pm me some time. Keep up the great work. MsM’s ld

Not much to do with chastity but I'm feeling pretty exhausted after spending the last couple of days getting the house nice and everything ready for guests coming to see us on Friday evening. Meals planned for our next two nights as well and all there is left to do really is get the food in for a traditional but special mean for our visitors. For now though, I need to relax and unwind. Hopefully Herbs will be happy to oblige. I'll not tell him just yet that today doesn't count. That can wait.

A few days since I've written on my thread so where are we? About to have a lovely Bank Holiday Monday with no plans and nothing urgent to do. Maybe we'll get out for a walk or go to a pub if the weather's nice. If it turns horrid, then perhaps indoors in best. Either way the day has got off to a pleasant enough start with a good breakfast and some fun. Herbs is coming up to 3 weeks in his latest stint wearing his little Cobra Nub and has adjusted well. He has exactly 7 more nights as long as he behaves himself. I wonder if the remaining nights are going to be any easier, or more challenging as his time spent locked increases. He obeys all his rules well and has learnt the one word and two word commands. I think the word I'd use to describe his current outlook is 'settled'. He struggles with the no ball touching rule but we'll get there with that one. The technology curfew frustrates him but the threat of 'another week' if I find him using his phone or computer when he's not supposed to is working well. I think we'll have a less strict day today so perhaps he'll get more time to spend online. He was rather limited yesterday. He's not doing too badly really if I'm honest.

I was going to write a little bit about Herbi's new cage but it looks like Herbi, unable to sleep because of his new cage, has beaten me to it. As he said in his post, I bought it “secretly” and gave it to him as aa surprise yesterday after work. Was worth the money just to see the expression on his face. Reasons for purchase were 1) to try something new 2) to see if steel was easier to keep clean and hygenic 3) smaller inner diameter of cage We had no problems at alll with the Cobra Nub and it seemed about as perfect as you could imagine. But I had wondered abaout long term hygiene and also, when he was at his most relaxed relaxed state he shrunk away from the sides of the cage a bit. Hopefully the smaller diameter will hold him a bit more tightly all of the time. One extra reason, the one I bought has a vertical slot at the front of the cage. Supposed to be easier for peeing and Herb's has found the Nub a bit difficult and/or messy at times. Another plus is that I like the look of it a lot. Smaller bars so I can see him inside it better. Hope he gets used to it quickly.

Looks like some milestones and records being set soon. 1st June will be two calendar months since we started on the chastity journey 3rd June Herbi will have done 25 consecutive nights, his longest so far. 25 nights is almost a month so a full month will make a nice goal for when he's relocked on the 3rd. He will have only come once during the calendar month of May Just once in June sounds good too. And we've now done 24 hours in the new cage! So much going on at the moment.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 2:13 pm > Looks like some milestones and records being set soon. > 1st June will be two calendar months since we started on the chastity journey > 3rd June Herbi will have done 25 consecutive nights, his longest so far. > 25 nights is almost a month so a full month will make a nice goal for when he's relocked on the 3rd. > He will have only come once during the calendar month of May > Just once in June sounds good too. > And we've now done 24 hours in the new cage! > So much going on at the moment. It looks like my goose is cooked:o

I did us both some lunch today and called up to Herb when it was ready (he was working from home again today). We ate, talked, and then just sat for a few minutes, had a coffee. Then I asked how much more he had to do today and he replied that he thought he'd done enough and that was it now. Finished for the day. It was a lovely surprise to start our weekend a few hours early and with lunch and tidying away done, it was too good an opportunity to waste so I went up to our bedroom, undressed, and then called “Come”. He arrived within seconds so I said “Strip” which he did without question of course. By now I was lying on the bed and reached out an arm and said “Come and lie down with me”. We had a lovely cuddle down together, bodies pressed together and, of course, I pushed him down to do what I wanted. We ended up lying together and even falling asleep for a short while. A most unexpected Friday afternoon treat. He did everything just as required. No mention on his cage at all. He knows he's only got another three nights and then he will get unlocked. He's done so well. Unexpected sleep has refreshed us both I think and we still have the evening in front of us to enjoy. It's even turned out rather bright and sunny. Maybe a walk would be nice.

It looks like it's a whole week since I wrote anything on here and things have happened so I'll write a little update. The main thing that has happened is that Herbs has had his June orgasm. He was unlocked after 26 nights, his new record, got to have some fun, a good and relaxing clean up in the bath (supervised) and then locked away again until next time. His 26 nights included 4 penalty nights for behaviour issues. Hope he learns from that. Anyway I thought that if he can manage 26, then that's not far off a calendar month, so his next release is due on the fourth of July. Unless he earns any penalty nights of course. Coming up to ten weeks since chastity began, and I would say he's adapted well to both the steel cage and the Cobra Nub. I require him to keep me informed of any problems but also to tell me how he's getting on with wearing them. It's a while since he's had any problems at all, but he does describe what he's feeling both physically and emotionally as required. He knows he must stick to factual information. Anything that sounds like just whinging is disallowed and will come with consequences. He's learnt to obey all my “one word commands” instantly and without complaint. (My favourite one word commands are “Strip” and “Kneel” of course). He does all that he needs to do to keep me satisfied and has even got used to going without clothes when instructed. I guess you could say that I've got a conditioned male on my hands. Three nights completed towards his month long caging now. We're both enjoying our adventure.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:39 am > … so his next release is due on the fourth of July. If it works out… over here in 🇺🇸 we will celebrate Independence Day with you both!:mrgreen:

Nice to read (on his blog thread) that Herbs is getting "close to being used to" his cage (to reuse his words). I'd also thought that he was more settled and used to it so it's good that he's confirmed it. He didn't mention this but I think he's ***almost*** as used to the metal as the original Cobra now. All good with “about 3 weeks” to go.

Four more days on since I last wrote and... Nice to have things confirmed. Herbi has written this morning that he feels “settled and comfortable with either cage now” and that is how I feel too. I like both of them just about equally but both for different reasons. The Cobra is so very sleek in appearance and completely unobtrusive under clothing. He described it as “Light and tight” with no room to move inside it. Very appealing indeed. Interesting how he says the lack of sensation is a “different kind of frustration”. It's good to know that it's frustrating even if it is in a different way.;) The House of Denial steel is heavy and maybe a little awkward for him at times as the weight swings about, but like the Cobra, it doesn't show under clothes. I know he gets very aroused in this one but I have no worries about it, especially as he's said that he's comfortable with it. It feels substantial and secure and the gaps in the bars are useful to tease. Chop and change indeed. When he's next unlocked I might put him back in the Cobra for a little while, like a fortnight or so. Keep things interesting with a different kind of frustration.

I get the feeling that Herbs is on the verge of that Cage Fever again. Perhaps it's because he's about to enter the third week again. That was difficult last time. Maybe it's worse because I swapped him back into to the Cobra Nub after a ten days or so in the steel. He's found adapting backwards into the Cobra rather less easy than he expected. He used to cope with it fine but after wearing the steel cage for a while, the Cobra stops him feeling anything most of the time. He said before it's a different kind of frustration. I think he'd now call it a ***worse*** kind of frustration. Never mind. It will come to an end one day when he goes back into the House of Denial steel again. And after 19 more nights, assuming good behaviour, he'll get to be unlocked again.

An easy day with nothing urgent to do an no real plans either. Hoping Herbs finishes work nice and early and then the rest of the day's ours. Also hoping that he won't have work tomorrow. Early start to the weekend. He's done well in the Cobra while my parents were staying with us. Hasn't grumbled or complained but then again there are consequences for complaining so he's been wise. I read a line that made me smile recently. Along the lines that “once he can do three weeks then he can do any length of time that you choose”. Not sure if Herbs would agree but it's an interesting thought. We're fast approaching three months into our journey (1st july!) and he's managed three weeks and more so there's no limits now, Hehehe. Laundry to do so I'll get that underway and make the most of the warm dry weather. Cooler forecast than yesterday but 22 is still nice. Warm enough for shorts:)

It's absolutely right. If he has lasted more than a month now. Then ultimately there is no limit to how long you let it last the next time. And after your test year, a lot will have changed. And it doesn't matter whether one goes through with it or not.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:31 am > It's absolutely right. > If he has lasted more than a month now. > Then ultimately there is no limit to how long you let it last the next time. > And after your test year, a lot will have changed. > And it doesn't matter whether one goes through with it or not. Don't tell Miss Emmie that, Waki. She might follow through with this 'no limit' business.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:48 am > > waki86 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:31 am > > It's absolutely right. > > If he has lasted more than a month now. > > Then ultimately there is no limit to how long you let it last the next time. > > And after your test year, a lot will have changed. > > And it doesn't matter whether one goes through with it or not. > Don't tell Miss Emmie that, Waki. > She might follow through with this 'no limit' business. She already had it in her mind that there is no limit anymore 🤣. I wish you the best of luck after your release.

With the first three months completed we had an 'open' discussion about it yesterday evening. Free to speak without fear of consequences. No need for 'Miss Emmie'. Both being open and honest. It was a good discussion. Both of us felt some surprise at how quickly the time had passed, how we'd adjusted to this new lifestyle, but most of all, just how possible it is for a man to remain locked. I know we'd read loads of stuff about cages and rules, edges and releases, denial and frustration, but after three months we realised, for real, that it was all pretty accurate stuff that we'd read. Also the things that we'd been told specifically, “smaller is better”, “if you can do a week, you can do a month”, “it gets easier”, etc. etc. have also all been spot on accurate. It's not that we disbelieved them, but just found them hard to believe. But now we know. Herbi was open about his difficult nights and daytime frustrations and all, but admitted that is had got easier (just as someone had predicted for us). He also commented on how he likes the way he is focused on doing what's good and right and although he doesn't like consequences, understands that they are necessary. I was slightly surprised by his honesty here, not because he's dishonest of course, but I didn't expect him to be as open with sharing his views. He usually requires encouragement to talk. I was open too about how I was enjoying the journey and finding the learning fascinating. I said “Nine months of the trial to go then” and he said “Yes, fine” and that it would be interesting. “And fun?” I asked. “Fun too, in an odd sort of way.” he agreed. We must have talked for about half and hour and covered all the good points and not so good. Sometimes our views of whether an aspect of chastity fell into the good or not so good category didn't always agree. Pain and discomfort are obviously not so good and we both agree on that. The intimacy and closeness that we have both felt are obviously good and no disagreement on that either. When it comes to lack of sleep, yep, that's no so good but frustration from nocturnal erections is less clear cut. I put it in the good bucket but Herbs wasn't convinced. Ha! At the end of this little chat we both agreed that we were “doing the right things” and that it (the trial) was working. I suppose if either of us had suggested that we'd “had enough” then we would have talked about it in more detail and arrived at a joint decision, a go/no-go point perhaps. But we didn't do that. Having agree that it was working, we also agreed that it was worth continuing. So that's what we're doing. Feeling positive about the serious (but easy-going) discussion, I said that I thought that was it for now unless he had anything else that he wanted to talk about. He said he hadn't so it was time for something else. Specifically the something else was a series of one word commands that had him undressed, unlocked and on all fours. A bit of edging as a reward for doing well. Bath, uncaged so supervised, then locked up. Bath for me too with Herbi washing my back and helping me to dry afterwards. All very loving and caring. Beautiful. Just time for one more one word command before bed. “Kneel”. Ah, yes. I knew something was missing from the evening. That was it!

I wouldn't usually write twice in one day, but today is a big day. An important day, for me at least. Could even say momentous. It was supposed to be for the 3 month milestone (1st of July) but I was a few days late in getting it sorted, so it has to be Independence Day instead, the 4th! Oh, the irony! The event that makes today special is that Herbi's newest cage arrived. He didn't know he was getting one. It was just a surprise for success with the first 3 months. Lucky that the trial wasn't cut short during last night's chat otherwise I would have a spare cage to put on eBay “New, unused. Unwanted gift” you get the idea. But the trial wasn't halted so all is good. He's now got a second steel cage, House of Denial again. Same ring as he's been using and has got used to. So we are now proud owners of a short steel, a shorter steel, and the good old Cobra Nub. I was going to wait a few days for his planned release before trying the new cage but I didn't have the patience...

Congratulations on your new cage. 🎉

Pleased to say that it did a fine job overnight and is working as intended. Very small! Not much room inside. In fact, no spare space at all. Hehe.

Hi Miss Emmie, I’m curious which HoD model is the new cage? And the original steel. So that we can get an idea of the reduction in size and style. Tia. Keep up the good work, sounds like his training is going well and working for both parties.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:00 pm > Hi Miss Emmie, I’m curious which HoD model is the new cage? And the original steel. So that we can get an idea of the reduction in size and style. Tia. > Keep up the good work, sounds like his training is going well and working for both parties. Both cages that I've bought are the S99 model. So we now have one ring plus two cages, a "small" and a "standard" size.

Thanks, as Waki86 says, smaller can be more comfortable as it prevents “half erections.” It is a significant reduction in size compared to the standard. Waki86 would probably agree that the shorter cages seem more aesthetically pleasing although that is obviously down to the keyholders opinion! I shall be intrigued whether you fix on one cage or continue to swap around over the next 9 months.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:21 am > I shall be intrigued whether you fix on one cage or continue to swap around over the next 9 months. I've not made any definite decision but My immediate feeling is that I will chop and change between the 3 (as well as the two S99 cages, we also have a Cobra Nub). I like all three and each has its own positives. Maybe I'll find that one is better or just that I like it more than the others, especially as we build up the length of time locked. Time will tell!

It's great that you can now choose from three. Each cage has a different effect on Herbert. And you can decide when he wears what. And investigate what it does to him and how he behaves. And then use it again. Both the man carrying the cage and the woman often have a preference. This may be that people find it nicer, or that the cage gives a different nicer feeling. That's just a personal thing. Miss R also likes to switch things up. The one I'm wearing now is permanently locked with e-clips. They can be removed with great difficulty. How long I wear this depends on Miss R. This one is slightly larger than my previous one, which was small. Everything was pushed in and gave a wonderful and special feeling. And that's my own personal preference. But the one I'm wearing now looks nicer together with the scrotum bar and ball splitter. And the one with a tiger's head looks cooler. Each cage has its own thing.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:40 am > It's great that you can now choose from three. Great that I can choose as you say. And only 3 nights to go until his release so I need to make a couple of decisions. 1) Which one to use next 2) For how long

The obvious answer is: whatever feels right! There’s no correct or incorrect choice, and of course you don’t have to change at all. The new cage hasn’t been on long enough yet that there’s a real need for a swap. Let it settle in; each type might influence Herbie's mind differently. Maybe try wearing them four weeks apiece before comparing?

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:23 pm > The obvious answer is: whatever feels right! There’s no correct or incorrect choice, and of course you don’t have to change at all. The new cage hasn’t been on long enough yet that there’s a real need for a swap. Let it settle in; each type might influence Herbie's mind differently. > Maybe try wearing them four weeks apiece before comparing? Yes, naturally, you're right. Whatever I feel like is the way to go, and since this new one has only had a short trial so far, it gives me the chance to compare all three and weigh their pros and cons.

As a Statistician, I would recommend extending his release period to give you ample time to evaluate all three cages. A premature release might skew your data. Just helping Herb out.

As a scientist, I would suggest having a release before and after each cage test so your data remains valid for comparison! You could spend one month in each cage, with an orgasm occurring before the first, between them, and after the last.:geek:

> hot-robot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:05 am > As a scientist, I would suggest having a release before and after each cage test so your data remains valid for comparison! You could spend one month in each cage, with an orgasm occurring before the first, between them, and after the last.:geek: Aren’t before, between, and after essentially the same thing? That sounds like far too many orgasms for someone who has already gone a month locked up; I think it’s time to move forward. Also, Miss Emmie seems to have managed surprise changes well rather than sticking to an organized three-month schedule, which might leave her husband with nothing unexpected or exciting in that regard. Just my two cents worth. MsM’s ld

> slave d wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:47 pm > > hot-robot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:05 am > > As a scientist, I would suggest having a release before and after each cage test so your data remains valid for comparison! You could spend one month in each cage, with an orgasm occurring before the first, between them, and after the last.:geek: > Aren’t before, between, and after essentially the same thing? That sounds like far too many orgasms for someone who has already gone a month locked up; I think it’s time to move forward. Also, Miss Emmie seems to have managed surprise changes well rather than sticking to an organized three-month schedule, which might leave her husband with nothing unexpected or exciting in that regard. Just my two cents worth. > MsM’s ld 35 nights caged means today is the day for Herbs' release and his fun; he gets to come ***once*** and then I agree, *it's time to move forward*. Keeping the phrase "*Once a month is more than enough"* in mind.

I notice Miss Emmie puts her *ominous phrases in italics*. .

She is doing a great job as your firm but fair Mistress/keyholder, pushing you just enough to keep you alert. And she is enjoying her role too, which is so important- she deserves to be spoiled and enjoys it without guilt because you are also enjoying serving her. It’s the perfect circle.

Two recent milestones: (1) Three months into the trial (2) A new record of 35 nights for Herbi. Nine more months to go in the trial and what comes next? Well, I believe we need to drive down the ratio of orgasms per month. Currently standing at a 1.75 which is ***way*** too high. He had quite a few orgasms during April, the month we started, so that has skewed the average. Unlocked for sex last night and locked up again in the small steel one. Last night marked the first night of this new lockup spell. The tiny cage doesn't look comfortable but he says it is. He bulges through the bars really strongly when aroused. Looks painful, but he insists not. Three cages to experiment with this time so we'll see how it goes.

Herbs has gone off to work today and I've got tons of stuff to get done here at home. It's miserable and raining so getting as many jobs out of the way makes sense. Herbi, warm and dry in his office, isn't missing anything interesting either. A day of slog for both of us then. He is still wearing his newest cage, the “small” HoD and has settled well with it. No problems to report. He wore it a few days before his last release, and went straight back into it afterwards so that makes about 10 or 11 days now. He'll be in it for a while longer yet. When at home, he is required to report any issues immediately, and the same applies when he's at work. On top of that, when working, he must send general status updates, usually morning and afternoon so I know how things are going. After texting me about his day and mentioning a meeting was coming up, he added his first report: “*Cage fine, all secure and comfortable. Doing its job admirably*”. Nice to know that he is happy.

Herbi has taken well to his new little cage. He openly admitted it was comfortable and not causing any issues. The only problem I see is that he's over-thinking things, like when he will be unlocked next. I haven't given him a set end date. But last time he managed 35 nights straight (though not in this new short cage). Maybe he'd like to know how long it will be this time, but I've said nothing because I really haven't even decided myself yet. He is right about one thing though, it will be longer than the 35-night record. Another 35 nights would take us to August 12th. Maybe I could push that into September without causing too much distress? A whole calendar month without an orgasm would help lower the average a bit. I think it's time for him to settle down in that little thing, relax, and stop overthinking.

Miss Emmie. Personally I think you are correct in not deciding on or providing a scheduled end date or unlock date. Scheduled cleaning dates if needed are fine but for one am happiest locked without any expectations of unlocking. The idea imo is to concentrate on your needs and pleasure so those become much more important to him than his own. Men become very self-centred and that’s why many end up in chastity to stop excessive self pleasuring. Also anticipation is the greatest arousal and part of the journey in my view is to allow that anticipation to reach new heights by having no control or knowledge of the “end game”. Again it’s only my 2c worth but all your thoughts seem perfectly on track. MsM’s ld

Thanks for that, slave d. You might call it only your 2c worth but I like to hear your thoughts. Plus those from everyone else of course. Glad you think I'm on track. I feel lucky to have had good advice, but also I think luck has played a part in my decisions. I've just gone with “what feels right” to me so perhaps my intuition, if that's what it is, has been right too. I've got my own plan for cleaning and changeover (from one cage to another) dates, and also ideas (but not a final decision) for an end date. Keeping those to myself for now though. He's nicely focused on my needs these days which is lovely for me. Tough on him maybe? Third week and cage fever ahead perhaps. Over the summer I'll be visiting my parents. Not sure when yet. Herbi might be busy with work and have to stay at home. I'll be leaving him locked of course so there'll be none of that self pleasuring that you mention while I'm away. I wonder how he'll cope with that?

Yes, I think it’s not important to focus on end dates because that’s not the point of the KH dynamic- the focus should be Miss Emmis pleasure, whether that is directly via orgasm or from the deep satisfaction that Herbie is completely focused on her. Chastity and denial is a means to an end (although pleasurable in itself once accustomed to it). Likewise, simply counting the number of orgasm she has before he can be unlocked makes it into a target again. Herbie has enough information already- it won’t be before 35 days and might not be until September or later. That’s for MissE to decide probably nearer the time. His job is to relax about it and change his mindset so that her orgasms become his… many report that the sight of the KH having an orgasm is almost as releasing/exciting as having one themselves. Having said that, it’s important that he is not “locked and forgotten“. Miss Emmi needs to give him some attention too as he still needs a reward for his devotion- short term as well as longer term (such as release after 2 months). There’s lots of suggestions available about that so I won’t dwell but common ones include nipple play, attempting to cum in his cage, pegging etc. And the converse some sort of punishment for behaviour is also important. Carrot and stick essentially. Not necessarily adding days specifically except as a general admonishment otherwise it becomes date focused again.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:33 am > Yes, I think it’s not important to focus on end dates because that’s not the point of the KH dynamic- the focus should be Miss Emmis pleasure, whether that is directly via orgasm or from the deep satisfaction that Herbie is completely focused on her. > Chastity and denial is a means to an end (although pleasurable in itself once accustomed to it). > Likewise, simply counting the number of orgasm she has before he can be unlocked makes it into a target again. > Herbie has enough information already- it won’t be before 35 days and might not be until September or later. That’s for MissE to decide probably nearer the time. > His job is to relax about it and change his mindset so that her orgasms become his… many report that the sight of the KH having an orgasm is almost as releasing/exciting as having one themselves. > Having said that, it’s important that he is not “locked and forgotten“. > Miss Emmi needs to give him some attention too as he still needs a reward for his devotion- short term as well as longer term (such as release after 2 months). > There’s lots of suggestions available about that so I won’t dwell but common ones include nipple play, attempting to cum in his cage, pegging etc. > And the converse some sort of punishment for behaviour is also important. Carrot and stick essentially. Not necessarily adding days specifically except as a general admonishment otherwise it becomes date focused again. Thank you for your thoughts which make interesting reading. The little phrase “Chastity and denial is a means to an end” puts it in a way that I hadn't quite thought of before but you're right. I like the idea of not making targets out of things. It's reassuring to read that you think Herbi has enough information already. "At least 35 days" and "Maybe September" etc. He will get positive attention too so definitely won't be “locked and forgotten”. But now that adding days isn't really an option, as it doesn't make sense to add to an unknown end date, I am trying to think of other punishments. (I paused before typing that word feeling as if I didn't really want to use it but that is what I mean: a punishment for behaviour issues) I've used a riding crop on him a few times now but don't want to make it the one-tool-fix-for-everything. Carrot and stick. I've got plenty of carrots, but what can be substituted for stick? Ideas will be welcomed.

I think admonished is better for minor misdemeanours and punishment for something more serious? The distinction between those words might help you? So touching his balls without permission, is minor but needs admonishment but might just be doing extra chores for a day. Punishment for more serious disobedience requires the cane or something else actually painful (physical or psychological). What punishment is involved depends on whether you are drawn to BDSM or not? Not everyone is and I am sure there are many variations that would suit you.

An old school punishment: stand in the corner and think about his inappropriate behavior.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:39 am > So touching his balls without permission, is minor... > Punishment for more serious disobedience requires the cane... > What punishment is involved depends on whether you are drawn to BDSM or not? Not everyone is and I am sure there are many variations that would suit you. Interesting example of a minor misdemeanour - because I'm still trying to cure him of that one. As you might have read, we have a crop and a paddle from pre-chastity days. He used to use them on me for 'fun' so I know they hurt. Not adverse to using the same plus the cane option that you raised with us.

Up to you of course what you call minor… Answering back aggressively, refusal, rude etc would be serious in my book. Ball feeling only minor. But if he got caught say three times then maybe it could be three strikes and then proper punishment. Appropriately might be ball spanking needed!

A subtle one I found maddening (MsM happily uses the cane crop and paddle as required) was to be sent to the bedroom to “listen only” while MsM masturbated while watching porn (which I had to load onto the tv so I knew what she was watching). So I had to listen to her cumming several times and then if lucky got to suck her big dildo clean and put things away. I would be allowed to see her “used” pussy but not touch even with my tongue. Maybe that hands need cuffing behind back to ensure the no touching rule. MsM’s ld

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:50 pm > Up to you of course what you call minor… > Answering back aggressively refusal rude etc would be serious in my book. > Ball feeling only minor. But if he got caught say three times then maybe it could be three strikes and then proper punishment. Appropriately might be ball spanking needed! Caught three times then a proper spanking. I like that idea. I cannot imagine that I would be able to bring myself to do a ball spanking though.

> slave d wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 3:09 pm > Maybe that hands need cuffing behind back to ensure the no touching rule. And maybe a gag to ensure the 'not even with the tongue' rule Hehehe!:lol:

Ark mentioned old school punishments. I’m seeing a Nun with a ruler across the palms for touching his balls.:lol: Or writing 100 times. “I will not touch my balls unless told to do so by Miss Emmie and she will more than likely never tell me to touch them.”

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:00 pm > Ark mentioned old school punishments. I’m seeing a Nun with a ruler across the palms for touching his balls.:lol: > Or writing 100 times. “I will not touch my balls unless told to do so by Miss Emmie and she will more than likely never tell me to touch them.” Writing lines would be a nightmare for him. :lol:

Beaming with delight today as Herbi shows that he's willing to lower the average number of orgasms per month. For him I mean. Not for me. I would have got the number down anyway but it's nice to know that he wants to do the same.

How about getting him a full size cage to put him in for time out? It’s a step up from standing in the corner and can be combined with other suggestions above like watching/listening not touching. Is Herbie good with his hands…? Nicely ironic to make use of his own cage even if only made of wood.

> Writing lines would be a nightmare for him. I keep thinking of the line in the Pink Floyd Brick in the Wall video. “How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?” Poor Herbi’s version “How can you have any pussy if you keep touching your balls?” Song title would be “A Chubb in the Nub”:lol: Sorry Herbi I just had to share.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:31 pm > > Rufusstone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:25 am > > How about getting him a full size cage to put him in for time out? It’s a step up from standing in the corner and can be combined with the other suggestions above watching/listening not touching? Is Herbie good with his hands…? Nicely ironic to make his own cage, even if only out of wood. > That one caught me off guard! > Ooo, it would be fun. > He's not all that practical so it would have to be a purchase or get made for us. Got my tools out already:D

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:31 pm > Hope you haven’t got your tool out though Mr Pickle! Got my tools out already:D

Hope you haven’t got your tool out though Mr Pickle!

Quick question MissEmmi: Having re-read both your threads, I’m still unsure but I assume chastity was Herbie’s request which didn’t work out with the cheap cage but is now (very well indeed!). And you’ve run with it to please him but have now found it works really well for you, not just sexually. So no need to answer this but I can see that 12 months trial may become more permanent?

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:38 pm > Quick question MissEmmi: > Having re-read both your threads, I’m still unsure but I assume chastity was Herbie’s request which didn’t work out with the cheap cage but is now (very well indeed!). > And you’ve run with it to please him but have now found it works really well for you, not just sexually. > So no need to answer this but I can see that 12 months trial may become more permanent? In short, it began with a light-hearted comment as we were looking online for other BDSM stuff, restraints and a paddle as I recall, when he said something about me needing to behave. Then we spotted some chastity cages and I (almost jokingly) said that if **he** didn't behave, I'd get him one of those. When he didn't outright object, a seed was sown. I think we both thought about it and came around to the idea separately and in slightly different ways. This was actually a few years ago but didn't work out because of the poor quality and fit of the cages that we bought (we had no idea what we were doing to be honest). Fast forward to 2024 and we thought we'd have another go. More research this time but still made another wrong choice with the CB6000S. You've probably read about that. Since we moved on from that we've got on really well. Herbs has adapted to life in his cages and I've found it interesting, fun and worthwhile. I actually love having him caged full time now. Unless something pretty drastic happens, I don't think we'll stop using these things once the year's trial is up. Feel free to ask if there's anything else you'd like to know.

I think that’s all thanks. Carry on the good work! Great to read two sides of the coin.

A couple of thoughts for you to consider: As you’re a CFNM fan, have you already thought of bringing in a trusted friend for Herbie to serve tea/champagne to? Or if too close to home, there are CFNM groups on other forums and meet like minded couples in social settings. Secondly, we’ve had discussions about punishment but rewards should be considered. I know you have already said that you make sure he gets lots of attention too and that you have done lots of internet research. But people get focused on unlocking whereas it can be more complicated than that. We know Herbie isn’t getting unlocked soon. However, how about training him to cum in his cage? Once achieved, this could be a reward. Or a punishment- when September comes, so does Herbie, in his cage which isn’t unlocked. There are various methods to achieve it which I won’t mention in case he has ideas… But there is one method I would recommend as it is a more “romantic, intimate” method for a loving KH to use. I might go into detail later though- I’ve rambled on a bit here and don’t mean to hijack your thread.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:49 am > A couple of thoughts for you to consider: > As you’re a CFNM fan, have you already thought of bringing in a trusted friend for Herbie to serve tea/champagne to? Or if too close to home, there are CFNM groups on other forums and meet like minded couples in social settings. > Secondly, we’ve had discussions about punishment but rewards should be considered. I know you have already said that you make sure he gets lots of attention too and that you have done lots of internet research. > But people get focused on unlocking whereas it can be more complicated than that. > We know Herbie isn’t getting unlocked soon. However, how about training him to cum in his cage? Once achieved, this could be a reward. Or a punishment- when September comes, so does Herbie, in his cage which isn’t unlocked. > There are various methods to achieve it which I won’t mention in case he has ideas… > But there is one method I would recommend as it is a more “romantic, intimate” method for a loving KH to use. I might go into detail later though- I’ve rambled on a bit here and don’t mean to hijack your thread. Thanks for your ideas Rufusstone! I don't call it hijacking the thread so don't worry. You are right about me reading a lot of stuff and learning a lot as I go, and have plans in my head around rewards like you say. Those plans aren't very clear and definite at this point but I have plenty of time to prepare, hehehe! One thing I hadn't thought of was inviting friends around but as soon as I read it I could think of at least two who I would count in as reliable and trusted and would also enjoy the scenario. That's an interesting one. Thanks again!

I remember Herbi writing a while ago about how he woke up “with a naked female wrapped around him”. Fortunately the naked female was me. Well this morning, I woke up with a naked male wrapped around me. Feeling his warm breath on my shoulder and neck and a hand on my boob, then light kisses on my neck and a nibble at my ear. It was lovely so I kept my eyes closed and continued to breath deeply as if still fully asleep. Eventually I had to be honest and open my eyes, partly because I couldn't deny how aroused I was getting from his attention and little moans and murmurs were beginning to creep out. What a great way to wake up. I rolled onto my back, gave him a warm smile and a loving kiss before pushing him down to suck my nipples. Fully ready, I pushed him further down to finish me off. An even better way to wake up. We cuddled up close for a while, me stroking his back and pulling him up against my body. His metal cage pressed against my pussy. His cock straining hard. Of course. He'd been edged last night and done well. He thought it was going to be changeover night where he got put into one of the other cages but I surprised him by handing him the small steel again saying “Put this back on”. He did so without complaint. Today looks like a nice day. Maybe a walk in the fresh air would be a good idea, back home in time for tea and then “Strip” I think, ready for a relaxing evening. Might be fun to tease him a little more. No unlocking for edging but that's better because I can still watch him in the steel. It's nice to not have any real plans sometimes.

Thank you for your lovely posts! A question if I may, about how many orgasms per week are the ideal number?

Thank you. I'm glad you like reading. I always hope my posts are useful and interesting. As to your question well, that's a difficult one! I don't count them! I will be honest and say that it has really made me think. First though, let me check... You're asking about for ***me*** or for ***Herbs***? For Herbs it's easy. It's 0.2 or less per week.:lol: But I assume you really meant for me. To answer it I'm going to ignore that awkward and tedious few days that crops up. I will admit to being a bit cranky and unpredictable at those times. For the rest of the month though? Well, always on waking up. One or two here maybe. Always before settling down for the night. If Herbs is working from home, then midday but if he has gone to work then obviously not (although the Lush 3 might help). Evenings are more variable where the 'on demand' rule applies. Might be 3 or 4 or more, but sometimes not at all (we might be out for example) Weekends offer more scope. Maybe 6-8 each day but sometimes as low as 1 or 2 if we're out or busy and up to, well there's no upper limit really is there? I'm going to go with an average of 5 per day on weekdays and 8 per day at weekends. What's that work out at? 41 per week? Remember it varies wildly though. Off to see if I can find an old jam jar and some beans now...

Thanks for the reply, and GOOD FOR YOU!!!:):):) I think that it is fantastic that you are able to enjoy so many pleasurable sensations while simultaneously providing Herbs with so much enjoyment. It is, indeed, wonderful!

As I think about it, I wonder if I've over-estimated on those numbers. Herb's reaction was "What? Is that all? Seems a bit on the low side to me." So who knows who's right?

It would seem to me the perfect answer is “as many as I wish”!! MsM’s ld

> slave d wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:55 am > It would seem to me the perfect answer is “as many as I wish”!! > MsM’s ld And that's pretty much how it works. Her 'on demand' rule can be used without limits.

Herbi was changed over from his little steel cage to the Cobra Nub yesterday evening. He wil be in this the whole of August. (Inspections/cleaning/edging as required though) During August I will be away. Going to visit my parents for a few days and looking forward to it. I don't see them very often and it will be great to spend some time with them. Get out for walks and meals, help them with anything they need help with in their home. and catch up with all the news. It will be the first time that Herbi has been 'home alone' while locked. I don't know how he will find that but he will manage. He will have to. I will be leaving a key with a friend for genuine emergencies. Herbs has done well over the last 3 weeks since he was re-locked (9th July). I think he's settled into the small steel and now will adapt to being back in the Cobra. He still has the 'standard' steel to do before his next release but he copes with that well too so I don't see a problem there. I Hope he agrees with me on that.

Sounds like you’re treating him very well and even if he doesn’t agree, you want him to so not many choices there for him to make!

Seems that Miss Emmie can't post to this (her own) thread this morning...

But I obviously just have and it worked.

Unashamedly lazy morning. I got the impression that it was cold, or cooler, outside and the duvet and pillows seemed extra cosy this morning. So we stayed in bed longer than usual. Herbi gave me something nice to wake up to and then went and made us both some coffee and toast, which we sat up and had together before snuggling back down for a bit longer. Pulled him close and we kissed and talked. Me: Did you sleep well? Herb: Ok. I think I woke up three times or so. Me: Ooo. Aroused? Herb: Yep, the usual. Me: I don't like it disturbing your sleep you know. Herb: I know. It wasn't too bad. Known worse. Me: Awwww. Do you want to sleep some more now? Herb: No. I don't think I could anyway. Me: You're not all hard again are you? Herb: With you cuddling up and kissing me all the time, of course. Me: Ooo, lovely. I do love that. Hard and frustrated. I'm sorry about the sleep thing but not sorry about everything else. I like our little chats. Often in bed on waking but at other times too. And poor Herbi is on his little journey but without a map or a compass. He doesn't know where he's going. But it's a nice journey all the same. He's ok though.

I have a day to myself today. Herbi has gone into the office. I'll be busy and thinking ahead to Friday when I'll be setting of to see my parents for a few days. Vikki, my friend, will be visiting us on Wednesday evening to collect Herbi's key. She's looking after it as a “just in case” measure. Genuine emergencies. Herbs had a good night I think. Woke hard as usual but got on with his morning routine and then set off for work. Five nights back in the Cobra so far and he says he's not reached the point of not feeling anything yet. I think it will be soon. Thursday evening and it'll be one last edge, a nice bath-time clean up, dry off, and lock up. A week on his own in the Cobra Nub. Wonder how that will go.

Does Vicki know what the key is for? Is she one of your good friends who you’d invite around for Herbi to serve fizzy?

Yes she is aware of what it's for and why she will be looking after it. When she visits on Wednesday it will be coffee and cakes offered rather than fizzy but yes she is.

Testing a post to Miss Emmie

Also testing a reply to this thread.

Yay! Cleared my iPhone cache!

Been lovely to spend so much time with mum and dad but it's also lovely to get back home. Peace, quiet, and a massive welcome from Herbs. He's being wonderful. Yeah, great to be home.

Welcome back.:D

We’ve all been having fun without you- maybe not Herbi so much. But let’s see how we can help you on your journey…

Hope you had a good visit. It’s always good to come home and sleep in one’s own bed. I know I never sleep well when Mrs. Groove is away. Oh, and by the way if you could just unsee the post about good ole Herbi, the great and faithful guy that he is, having a double supervised Saturday soaking I would sleep better too. Pleeeasseee!?:cry:

Thanks all. Super trip and wonderful time with parents but still good to be home. Journey was good too with only one lot of queueing traffic. Herbi had done well. Nice tidy, clean house, food in ready so no shopping to worry about and it sounds like he coped well with his week on his own. Maybe Vikki caused a bit of nervousness but he dealt with it. She can be a bit direct and full on at times. I gave Herbi a little bit of freedom after an inspection, bath, edging, and some oil to sooth a bit of dry looking skin on either side of his penis, probably caused by it all being so scrunched up all week. He looked a bit forlorn when I handed him the Nub (which I'd cleaned thoroughly while he was in the bath) and told him to put it back on. I told him there's still 2 weeks left in August. No change from the Nub yet, mate. So no orgasm for him of course and once safely Nubbed, we got on with a lovely evening. Meal, cuddles, and lots of chat. The Lush 3 had been great while away but it was good to feel that tongue again. Lazy day ahead today.

We had a beautiful afternoon and wonderful evening yesterday. Having intended to stay in to relax, I decided it would be a good day for a walk and picnic instead. It was the right choice. So we packed up some food and a drink each and set off. A few minutes drive and we were in the forest parking up and getting out for a walk. The weather was perfect and we found a peaceful spot in the shade of the trees to eat. A slow long loop of a walk, holding hands, gave us time to talk. Herbi’s week and my news from mum and dad. Plenty to talk about. I told him I was pleased and proud how he'd managed to chalk up 6 weeks this time. 2 more weeks left in August and then a change from the Nub? Would that be nice? He agreed it would. Back to the car, shaded under the trees so it wasn't too hot to sit inside with the doors open to finish up a bit more picnic and some more talk including a bit of a laugh over how Vikki had been while I was away. I thought Herbs had dealt with the situation well. Flustered and intimidated maybe but he handled it. Then time to head back home. A quiet and easy evening. Herbs without clothes and being useful for various tasks including washing my hair and back when it was my turn for a soak in the tub. A 'kneel' command and a thoroughly relaxing back massage to finish off the day. Nice to be home.

Now that you're back and I can post on this thread again, I'll finish off my suggestions from a few weeks ago. Especially this first one since the opportunity is approaching. Ahem… Being able to cum while wearing his cage is a useful motivator, but he shouldn’t be encouraged to develop any “solo” techniques. Only this specific technique should be used because it can be both romantic and frustrating at the same time. Since September has arrived and Herbi assumes he will have a temporary release with perhaps a new cage applied next, there's an extra hoop for him to jump through first: before his current cage comes off, he needs to learn how to cum while still inside it. He should get one chance per day until it’s achieved. He might achieve it on the very first day or wait till the seventh; who knows? The technique can be performed either lying down face-to-face (which is physically less tiring) with Herbi positioned on top (like in missionary style). This second option is even more arousing but also more frustrating. Let’s assume we start with him lying down - The KH gently cups his balls with both hands, encircling the base of his penis with her thumbs while using her palms to hold the cage steady. Herbi then essentially “dry humps” against the cage as his balls are caressed by her fingers. It's harder to describe than it is to do, though some individual variation may be required depending on what works best for them, particularly regarding pressure levels etc. A little lubrication might help since there needs to be slight movement and a small amount of friction within the cage. That’s all the pleasure he gets. The missionary position adds even more frustration—just like intercourse with his beloved but only moving against the cage. If she likes it, she can hold the cage against her labia, which she may find pleasurable herself. It's just like edging without removing the cage. I recommend he achieves this milestone before getting released.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:23 am > Wonder if a text message might be welcome to give him something else to think about. I always appreciated receiving a text or even a photo from my girl; it gave me something else to focus on!

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:34 am > The missionary position is even more frustrating- just like intercourse with his beloved but only humps the cage. If she likes, she can hold it against her labia which she may find pleasurable. I have been able to achieve an orgasm this way once before. The main difference was pressing my balls down toward her labia while directing my cage up towards her belly. The separation and dry-humping pressure created quite a bit of frustration and took some time, but it felt tremendous when it finally happened—both mentally and physically. And she really seemed to enjoy it too. Good luck!!

Would have to say (just being a contrary Mary or Janet perhaps?) that I’m not fond of anything allowing for an actual orgasm. To me, that’s the point where the male psyche throws a fit and takes days if not weeks to return its fully aroused “attentive and obedient” self. My personal feeling—and yes it is just mine—is that teasing and denial are fine because they increase the desire to be a “good boy” seeking more attention. Meanwhile, “proper” milking which empties out the system without an orgasm response provides the most frustrating yet submissive manner of maintaining the “system,” if deemed necessary. I can’t see any real benefit for the KH when her “locked one” has an orgasm beyond teaching him that it really isn’t worth getting worked up over weeks or months, giving him a sense of being “better off orgasm-free and continually aroused to please my Mistress and KH. As always, just my two cents MsM’s ld

I understand what you mean slave d and I’m not saying it should be a regular occurrence but rather part of the KH’s repertoire. In this particular case, if she is going to let him out anyway in September, why not make that little bit more difficult and potentially delayed for him? Plus, she may enjoy watching his efforts trying to cum. So she gets the benefit of that too. I get the impression she would.

Fair call; I understand completely. MsM’s ld

Wow, I've got some catching up to do. I can see both sides of this argument. On the one hand, I think everything is worth at least one try. I get slave d's point though especially if it takes days or weeks to get back to fully aroused, attentive and obedient. Who wants to wait that long?! Isn't it similar however he gets his orgasm though? Caged or not? PIV or otherwise? The deal was that Herbi remains locked for the whole of August so he'll get to come **once** in September. A little while to go yet. I haven't decided ***when*** in September... Thanks for your inputs everyone:) [this message might prove whether clearing the cache worked]

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:29 am > Isn't it the same however he gets his orgasm though? Caged or not? PIV or otherwise? > [this message might prove whether clearing the cache worked] Lord No Lady Emm:O There are orgasms, and a whole list of cuming but Not orgasms. eg caged cuming, milking, edging out, prostate play, phycology stuff, you can let some out if you agree to.. Then there's degrading orgasms, premature ejeculation (yeah C thinks these are hilarious). C prefers to ease some out or relieve pressure for prostate health reasons. Argue all you want. Its C. You wont win. She isnt willing to take chances. So my "man system" gets a turn over without the pleasure of the orgasm. C has found no end of ways to do this. Treat it as a game, play with it. Decide which you like. The fun is in the learning. Actual orgasms like piv or sucked off? I've had 8 this year. A single orgasm rarely causes a down or refractory period (Too many hormones for one Mr blobby to deal with).

The orgasm vs. cumming debate seems to have as many opinions as there are relationships. I will agree with Mr. Pickle that when you’re loaded up on hormones a single orgasm can almost make horniness even worse. Yup another opinion about the matter. What’s important is that you experiment and find what combo works best for you all. Just a thought: through our journey Mrs. Groove has learned how to recognize my hormone overloads. While keeping me caged, she will focus on my other erogenous zones and can bring me to a full body shaking orgasm. She gives no attention to Mr. Wanky and he seldom forces the cage or drools through the process. I’ve even had multiples like this. In the end I’m much calmer and yet hornier and more energetic. I find these events to be more about connecting with each other than just sex. Just another opinion.:)

Ooo, I've got so much to learn and experiment with! Thanks for all your inputs. I will be giving them all thought. Probably too caught up on "number of days" and charts and averages really and I ought to get more... what word can I use? Playful? Playful this evening as Vikki is coming round to return the key and have dinner with us. Hope Herbi enjoys his evening. He knows what Vikki can be like now after all her messages to him while I was away, hehehe. I am sure she will be playful tonight too.

I didn’t say he could cum again once released, only that he won’t be released until he’s cum in his cage. Up to you whether he gets to cum again in September after that. Even if it takes all September before he achieves it! Have fun with Vicki and Herbi; I’m sure two of you will anyway. And yes, as the other guys say, it’s a lot more complicated than just counting days - there’s lots of incentives to use on Herbi…

To cum or not to cum? Is that really the issue? I have come to realize that it’s the unexpected that does the most rearranging of a man’s brain cells. Some examples: I’m not a blogger but Mrs. Groove mandated that I start a journey blog. I had to put myself out there, it's worse than public nudity for me. On Sunday she required me to be 100% naked. This included being cageless. I missed my cage fiercely; it was brutal. What would happen if Ms.Vikki came over for a casual girls evening and Herbi was around but was ignored? Or there was no discussion of the key and she ‘accidentally’ kept it? Maybe you have a change of plans and you and herbi go to Ms. Vikki’s to get the key. Same naked rules could apply there as at home. Creative playfulness is the real key. Just another opinion.

Great update from Herbi and he sounds to have done you proud. Although it’s your tuition that matters!

According to Herbi it appears you all had a lovely visit. I get the impression that Herbi is becoming more comfortable with this new arrangement. I won’t pry but I am waiting to see who will actually do the next unlocking of Herbi.:?

Ooer T&G, I think that’s at least subliminal suggestion!:lol:

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:45 pm > According to Herbi it appears you all had a lovely visit. I get the impression that Herbi is becoming more comfortable with this new arrangement. > I won’t pry but I am waiting to see who will actually do the next unlocking of Herbi.:? Well Vikki and I did.:) I think Herbs was ok with it. He knew he had to be really. Did all the cooking, serving, washing up and everything else. And behaved himself. Embarrassed but turned on by it. It'll be easier next time. He'll be in the steel cage. Vikki's looking forward to that.

Next stage going for a CFNM afternoon tea meeting with a local group?

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:29 am > Next stage going for a CFNM afternoon tea meeting with a local group? :lol: I can't see that happening! Vikki has already accepted the offer of another evening with us though. She's often on her own on a Tuesday evening so it's nice to have something of her own to look forward to.

In that case, maybe adding some sort of formality to the evening then might good unless you prefer the more relaxed format of Herbi just serving drinks etc?

> [[P147955]] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:16 am > In that case, maybe adding some sort of formality to the evening then might good unless you prefer the more relaxed format of Herbi just serving drinks etc? Formal touch? Could you explain a bit?

Surely the ladies have the final say: Many women like dressing up for their own pleasure, and I’m certain a locked man admiring various outfits would find it quite entertaining. Think of it somewhat like Miss World: you could have a casual round, a formal attire round, and a beachwear round. The outfits can range from elegant to bold, depending on how they feel. Even though you’ll be restrained and bare underneath, an open dinner jacket with bow tie and cage would look quite sharp while serving refreshments and meals. I also think having some clear, written guidelines (not binding contracts, just pointers) is useful, particularly since Vicki is helping out. The keyholders could go over these rules after the meal.

> [[P147980]] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:31 am > Obviously, it’s for the ladies to decide but: > Many women enjoy getting dressed up just for themselves but I’m sure having an appreciative locked male viewing various outfits would be extra fun. > A bit like the old Miss World, you might judge a casual round, a formal dressing round and beach wear one. > The clothes could be very tasteful or raunchy, depending on their mood. > And although you would be locked and naked, wearing only an open dinner jacket, bow tie and cage, would look better. > Whilst serving drinks and food > I also feel that having some formalised, written rules (not a contract, a guide) is helpful, especially now Vicki is lending a hand. > So your KHs could discuss those after dinner. I’m not even going to let my mind wander off. Let the ladies make the call if they wish. I do notice you refer to them as ***my KHs*** though, plural...

Your keyholders seem pretty established now unless Miss Emmi decides otherwise. But with Miss V potentially popping in often on Tuesdays, we’re definitely looking at double the trouble.

Herbs is currently under a technology curfew. It’s lovely when he can’t use his phone or laptop in the evenings; he becomes very attentive! I drew him a hot bath and sent him off for a long soak. Left unsupervised so he remains Nubbed. Once he emerges and dries off, we’ll eat (Chinese is being delivered shortly) and then I have a little surprise waiting for him. It’s something I ordered that didn’t arrive until I was away for the week. Hope he enjoys his evening:)

Now you’re teasing us with your new purchases! Speaking of curfews, Herbi has been replying in your thread. Is that permitted or an infraction?

Wow rufusstone:? what a stir it is! Seems to me that Miss Emmie is quite capable of making these decisions on her own? MsM’s ld

> [[P148004]] wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:51 pm > Now you’re teasing us with what you’ve bought! > Talking of curfews, Herbi has been answering on your thread. Is that allowed or an infraction? I think we can permit that. It’s better to post in a relevant place and have it noticed.

I just read Herbi’s update. I must say you did a wonderful job creating such a romantic vibe. Sounds like you both had a lovely evening. Multiple times, in fact.:D

> [[P148023]] wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:16 am > I just read Herbi’s post. I must say you did a beautiful job creating such a romantic atmosphere. Sounds like you both enjoyed your evening. > Several times.:D Thank you! Herbs had absolutely no clue of course,:lol:

Herbs is being cheeky. He’s becoming more agitated yet also excited. I don’t mean sexually excited, though that happens often too; I mean he’s eager because September is approaching. The odd thing is, he doesn’t actually know what will happen in September. But he’s getting worked up about it regardless. All he knows for certain is that he’ll be out of the Cobra and into one of the steel cages. September is a significant date though. 5 months since we began this journey/trial. 8 weeks since his last orgasm (a new record) A full calendar month without release (a first) An entire calendar month in the Cobra Nub, only unlocking for cleaning and edging (another first) He knows September means he will get unlocked to come once, but not when. Will I be generous and let him on day one or make him wait until the big ship sails? So agitated and excited; last night he was "hard all night," though I think he might be exaggerating there. He did manage ***some*** sleep. Perhaps it’s just an after-effect of that Chinese meal evening. Or hormones returning after 8 weeks. We had a very lazy day yesterday, staying home to avoid the Bank Holiday crowds and queues (I assume there were some?). Today he has gone into work. According to his latest report, he is busy but distracted. Not surprising given the circumstances. I sent him a picture. It was quite basic and workplace-appropriate, yet it did its job. Maybe I should let him get on with his tasks.

Herbi seems to be experiencing more arousal lately. For the past week or so, he’s leaked more and says his erections are stronger during the day as well. With the Cobra, his days were usually uneventful—no feeling, no arousal unless triggered by other factors—but that appears to have shifted. He always had night-time erections, waking early unable to sleep again, but now daytime ones too. Something is different now. Perhaps the vacuum of space effect is only temporary when wearing the Nub? Hope he enjoys regaining some sensation!

> he’s leaked more I know the feeling. I tried to tell her it was crying for attention. I think that might have cost me a few days.:?

Comments about how well I am managing made me reflect. A natural keyholder? I’m not sure yet. I follow my gut instincts and listen to everyone offering advice. That’s my chosen method. Someone suggested trying a Cobra, or a Nano or Nub. So I did. I chose the Nub.\nWhat great advice! I love the Cobra Nub; I enjoy seeing it on him and what it does for Herbi. Another person said “If you can do 3 weeks then there's no limit,” and now that we’ve pushed Herbi to 8 weeks (minus a few days, but we’ll get there), I agree. He’s managed this without knowing an end date in advance. When we first started, he usually knew how many days were left until his next release. Not telling him was advice from someone else that I took up. Perhaps I will alternate between letting him know and keeping it a secret. Keeping him in the dark seems to work well. I read that some keyholders don’t build up gradually but go straight into 2 months from day one. That sets conditions and boundaries all at once. We didn’t do that; we built up slowly. Another keyholder suggested 3 months. The idea is that after three months, both of you learn a lot and reach a new level together. Reading about CFNM showed me that others share my fantasy ideas, so CFNM has become part of our lifestyle. As for rules and commands, they are mostly my own inventions (though not unique). I like one-word commands such as “Strip” and “kneel.” He obeys instantly of course. So I follow advice but also dream up my own methods. Does that make me a natural keyholder? Still undecided. To finish, Herbi has just read about a 7-day cycle or something? From him, the idea is that the male gets unlocked for sex (or at least release) each week. That may not be exactly what it means, but that’s my current understanding. The funny part is that Herbi imagined this would be his experience of chastity. Obviously, once I started reading and researching, things turned out a bit differently. A random post as usual; I am somewhat unpredictable at times.

> I am a bit random sometimes. With my limited experience, I’d say you’re a natural.:D

> [[P148160]] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:39 am > > I am a bit random sometimes. > With my limited experience, I’d say you’re a natural.:D Thank you! Another piece of advice that I forgot to mention but proved accurate was: ***smaller is better***.

> [[P148157]] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:17 am > I am following my nose, my instincts, and listening to everyone who's offering advice. That's my method, I've decided. > Just to finish, Herbi has just read about a 7 day cycle or something? > I get the idea (from him) that it's where the male is unlocked for sex (or at least to come) each week. maybe that's not quite what it means but it's my understanding at the moment. > The funny thing is that Herbi imagined that this is what chastity would be like for him. > Obviously turned out a bit different once I started reading. > Bit of a random post but I am a bit random sometimes. I must be the village idiot thinking that **chastity** meant just waiting a few days for sex and then, hey presto! off we go. No 7-day cycle for me though. You didn’t tell me what your instincts would lead to, did you Miss Emmie? And regarding ‘a bit random sometimes’, I’d question the word 'sometimes'. Well done on your achievements anyway. I never imagined you could be so imaginative or secretive! I love the random bits by the way.

> [[P148170]] wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:26 am > I must be the village idiot thinking that **chastity** would be a few days kept waiting for sex and then, waheyhey off we go. No village idiot here. Maybe naively overly trusting, hehehe.

I felt a bit sorry for Herbi yesterday. I made him tell me everything Vikki had put in her messages to him, plus what he’d replied back. I didn’t ask to ***see*** the actual messages. I actually *didn't* want to see them. I wanted ***him*** to have to say it out loud, re-living the embarrassing (for him) content, especially when she asked if he had been allowed to come since she last saw him and such things. Poor Herbi. He had to admit that he hadn’t, then retell the whole story to me. I messaged Vikki this morning to say well done and thank her for showing interest beyond just acting as a stand-in keyholder. She said she’ll send him something else later today, ask how things are going, etc. It seems she can get him aroused with text messages alone. Hehehe. Poor old Herbs.

Good control of Herbi Miss E - keep it up! (Not that you aren't already).

1st September. 5 months into the year-long trial today. We both already know it’s a success and there is no turning back. Also, with Herbi completing a full calendar month without an **orgasm**, his average has officially dropped to 1.4 per month. Aiming for lower still of course.

Herbs seems to have had a couple of tough days. I wonder if it’s me rounding up his Nub time to 5 weeks? Or him choosing an extra week just so he can get the fairy costume out again? Hehehe, that was actually his choice though. I told him there were only 4 more nights in the nub and he let out a groan, so... Me: Had enough of the Nub then? He: [puffs out air] yeah, getting to my limit here. Me: Come out now? If you could? He: If I had the **key** I think I might just do that. Me: Ok. I simply said "Ok". Didn’t press further or offer anything extra. But I listened. Feels like an edging night is in order. Then straight back in, of course. Until Tuesday. Wonder how he’ll like the new one. I’m looking forward to the change too, but honestly, the Cobra will be hard to beat. Nice to know others here enjoy its benefits as well.

"Nice to know of others on here enjoying its benefits as well." You folks have reminded me of the Cobra’s "benefits," and I’ve been using my Cobra N+ Wide more frequently lately for a very different experience compared to my MM JB. Change can be good... very good... if done properly. Thank you.

A great evening out with friends. Welcoming restaurant and steaks for everyone. Wine. Chocolate fudge cake, ice cream, coffee, tequila. Lots of conversation; one of those evenings where it gets late early. Probably a bit too much alcohol, but only occasionally. Likely too many calories, but never mind. As long as the fairy costume still fits. So I slept in late this morning and woke to the smell of toast and coffee. We sat in bed eating and drinking. After a kiss and cuddle, Herbi suddenly remembered why he is locked in the Cobra Nub and went down to do what he knows he must always do. Always a lovely start to my day. He can kneel for me in just a bit too. No clothes for Herbs today. Just been thinking about what comes next. Every time Herbs has been locked up since starting **chastity**, it’s been for longer than the previous time. Then I read on the keyholders pages about doing a 3-month lockup, which said we would both learn much from that. So we will soon have achieved those three months (by end of September). That marks the end of our ever-increasing lock-up times. No need to continue that pattern unless I want to. But somehow I think I’ll aim for something shorter next time. A fortnight maybe, but with extra days added for bad behavior. Maybe the chart will come out again. We shall see. Nice to ponder over these things. I have four cages to choose from now. I wonder if one will become a clear favorite and another perfectly suited as a “naughty cage.” The knowledge that once you pass 3 weeks, there are no limits seems proven true. I can forget about counting days or weeks altogether now.

> Knowledge that once you've done 3 weeks there’s no limits. I must agree. Somewhere between 14 and 21 days things calm down. It just depends on the t&d intensity. I shouldn’t speak too freely here since I’ve not been past 28 days. Congratulations to you and Mr Herbi.

> [[P148399]] wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:18 am > > Knowledge that once you've done 3 weeks there’s no limits. > I’ve not been past 28 days. > Congratulations to you and mr herbi. Herbi is just over 60 days now, hehehe. Thank you!

Herbs has been a bit busy and otherwise unable to update his journey, but let’s just say he was glad to be out of the Nub after 6 weeks. And I’m delighted to see him wearing the new tiny steel one. It is very small! I plan to keep him in it for about a week. A trial within a trial. Then back to the standard steel for another couple of weeks or so. That brings us to the end of September. He knows now that’s when he gets out and will come for the first time in just under 3 months. It has been worth going such a long spell. I’ll leave it to him to write about his recent encounter with Miss Vikki, but I will say she enjoyed her evening and approves of the new cage!:D

This new one is tiny, tight, and solid. I think I might have found the naughty cage for Herbi.;) The third night is coming up!

> [[P148443]] wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:51 am > This new one is tiny, tight, and solid. > I think I might have found the naughty cage for Herbi.;) > 3rd night coming up! We men love breasts and buttocks. Keyholders apparently prefer very small cages. Why that is remains a mystery to me. Personally, I find balls attractive or they look sweet. I am not allowed to ask Miss R whether that’s truly the case. Maybe you can explain why.

> [[P148445]] wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:09 pm > We men love breasts and buttocks. > Keyholders apparently like very small cages. > Why that is is a mystery to me. > I personally think that the balls are attractive, or they look sweet. > I am not allowed to ask Miss R whether that is really the case. Maybe you can say why that is. Yes, balls are nice. Small cages do look cute though. And keep their contents secure.

Last night in the new one for Herbs. It's been successful. Hygiene is not a problem just swishing out with the shower regularly. It looks neat and holds him still. Inaccessible. Secure. Tomorrow is changeover day. After a bath he'll be wearing the bigger steel one again. Vikki hasn't seen that one yet but is looking forward to it tomorrow. He'll then be in that until 30th which will be big O day. I'm looking forward to the big cage again. I can stroke him through the bars in that one. Fun. Means he can touch himself too which is a downside but he can't do much really. After the 30th we'll have to see. I think a longer spell in the new one would be good and then finish the month in the Cobra maybe. He won't be freed during October. Driving down the average and all that. November we'll have to see as well. Might let him come once. Unless he prefers a fairy night?

Sounds like you might be going for my suggestion of Loctober followed by No- vember. Nice to give him the choice though about Fairy night though and he could choose to go to Xmas/New Year and bring the numbers down with a re-set for 2025?

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:53 pm > Sounds like you might be going for my suggestion of Loctober followed by No- vember. > Nice to give him the choice though about Fairy night though and he could choose to go to Xmas/New Year and bring the numbers down with a re-set for 2025? You can take it that after 30th September, he won't be seeing the light of day until November at the earliest. November is still up for grabs at the moment.

I just wanted to let you know that the trip you and Herbie have made is downright amazing, so Kudos to you. I love the ratio aspects, and it seems like you have a 100:1 ratio while he is sub-1:1, which is the perfect ratio you need to have. You know, I was thinking that predictions are fantastic things as the end of the month approaches. You can use your ratio aspect to let him "orgasm" as much as he desires, and you could add the kicker that each orgasm "adds" an interval of your choosing (day/week/month). So picture the joy you could have of making him orgasm over and over and over, knowing at the very end when the lock goes "click," you state I am so proud of you. You added "X", and by the way, 2025 is all about getting you below 1:1... My love:) Thank you and Herbie for sharing something so intimate and amazing on your travels.

> tegelad wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:49 pm > I just wanted to let you know etc.. Holy missing person Batman.! This is the second post after nine years. Welcome back *@tegelad* why not introduce yourself.

> Mr Pickle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:25 pm > Holy missing person Batman.! > This is the second post after nine years. > Welcome back @tegelad why not introduce yourself. Hi there, I was cleaning up passwords and re-found the forum. I have been into Male Chastity for a very long time (I was on CM), I am a natural switch, but I love everything about chastity. My wife isn't into it (so it is extra thrilling to see a wife really into it.) I didn't want to hijack Emmie's thread, but I had to say wow and great job. As a dominant (when not submissive) I have been told I am delightfully wicked, but I also have a deep submissive side too (which makes when I dominate very "good". So thanks for the response ...

“***Three months is good and you will both learn a lot***” Those words or similar are what I read and decided to try it. It's the last few days of Herbi's 3 months (slightly short of 3 months but I'm going to count it as good as) What have we learnt then? It said we would ***both*** learn a lot. First off, I've learnt that Herbs can indeed go 3 months without an orgasm. He can also do 6 weeks straight in the Cobra Nub. I've learnt that all 4 cages have different positives and negatives so a mix is a good thing. Chop and change. I now know that Herbs will put up with any of them and that incentives (such as fairy night, hehehe) can extend lock ups even further. He will do anything willingly. I don't have to ask, ever, to get my back washed in the bath or help with drying off. He is happy to help me fill a jar with beans in next to no time. Things that he would have found odd or even outrageous before (the “strip” command) he doesn't even flinch at now. He's put up with a lot. Night time disturbed sleep etc. Day time distractions too. Being naked on front of Vikki. The stick for being naughty. He takes it all well. He's not allowed to complain, but we have open discussions where he can speak freely without consequences. He's said it's tough sometimes. Waiting and looking forward to his list of what he's learnt over the past 3 months. Horny as hell now. I know he's ready for Monday. His average will be down to 1.33 by then. Can't wait to see how it goes and to lock him back up for October. Average 1.14 by the end of October. Getting there.

Please don’t take the following as judge-mental, I’m actually very curious. But everything you mentioned was things that you learned about Herbi. May I ask what you have learned about yourself? I only ask because since Mrs. Groove and I have started this I have noticed that when she gets horny she’s nearly unstoppable. Once I get to the point of managing my own desire (10-14 days or so) she will unleash herself. And when she does she can be very demanding that I ‘fill’ her up. I understand it’s all about her, but the cycle of starting over again can be frustrating. Terrible problem, right? And hopefully you hear my question in an honest curious way.

Nice update, Miss E.

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:03 am > Please don’t take the following as judge-mental, I’m actually very curious. But everything you mentioned was things that you learned about Herbi. May I ask what you have learned about yourself? > I only ask because since Mrs. Groove and I have started this I have noticed that when she gets horny she’s nearly unstoppable. Once I get to the point of managing my own desire (10-14 days or so) she will unleash herself. And when she does she can be very demanding that I ‘fill’ her up. I understand it’s all about her, but the cycle of starting over again can be frustrating. > Terrible problem, right? > And hopefully you hear my question in an honest curious way. Question taken in an honest curious way and thanks for asking. It's a good question. I guess the main thing is that I can be dominant! I never thought of myself like that before but I think I've managed to be a bit creative and at the same time, determined to make it work. I think those are the biggest things that surprised me. Before our chastity adventure I would never have involved anyone else in our sex lives. Nothing like giving Vikki a spare key for example. One other thing is that I've found I can manage things more than I've ever thought possible before. Managing in the sense of being in charge I mean and not just his cock. *@Mr Pickle* summed this up in one of his picture where the girl says “The key isn't just the key to his cock and for sex. It has put me in charge of everything else as well.” It's very true. Interesting wording “***it*** has put me in charge” and not “***I*** have taken charge” but that is how it feels to me. It has put me in charge but I have been up to dealing with it. I am sure there are loads of little things that I could write about but I'm sticking to the biggies for now

Thanks for answering my question so honestly. It’s interesting that I have seen some of the same assertive behaviors in Mrs. Groove. It’s also quite arousing.:D

I’ve read Herbi’s great account of last night and I’m sure we’ll all enjoy that. But one question occurs to me and you don’t have to answer this - everyone is different after all. Herbi is orally able and he has given up his orgasms and you haven’t. But you have mostly given up PIV and my other half would struggle with that if it was less than at least once per month. So in the long term, is that sustainable for you? Doyou see some things may change once the first year experiment is over? Obviously, that’s in the future and your plans may change but you have suggested that you both think that chastity is something that will continue.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:46 am > I’ve read Herbi’s great account of last night and I’m sure we’ll all enjoy that. > But one question occurs to me and you don’t have to answer this - everyone is different after all. Herbi is orally able and he has given up his orgasms and you haven’t. But you have mostly given up PIV and my other half would struggle with that if it was less than at least once per month. > So in the long term, is that sustainable for you? Doyou see some things may change once the first year experiment is over? > Obviously, that’s in the future and your plans may change but you have suggested that you both think that chastity is something that will continue. Sensible and reasonable questions. This latest was meant to be a 3 month lockup to see what happens (a learning experience) but is probably a one-off. So he's given up his orgasms – almost - but he still gets some. Just doesn't know when or how. Likewise I've given up PIV - mostly – but not completely. Last night's outcome was on the roll of the dice but in future I can demand PIV if I want. I expect I will. I have other ways of course. Including my Lush 3 that I like a lot. So it probably would be sustainable but also probably doesn't need to be. I see chastity continuing after the year's trial is up. It might be different but it will carry on. Pretty sure of that.

Thanks for answering

Been good to do that 3 months thing but nice to have the choice to do something different now. At least I know anythings possible now! And the average is down again. Herbs wasn't pleased when I said that he's only really done one full month. "what do you mean?" he said. I said that he'd come in July before being locked up on the 9th and he'd come in September. So it's only August as a full calendar month that he's really done. "yeah but.... 81 nights is nearly 3 full months!" "don't worry about it, Herbs" Nice to see that even after Monday's fun and orgasm he's still ready for more. Nice to see him hard in his Cobra. I sent him a text while he was working today. "Been hard yet?" "yes" "excellent. What about right now?" "yep I am now" "lovely. That's how I like you to be"

With all the fun of Monday evening, I almost overlooked the fact that 1st October was the first day into month 7 of our trial. We're half-way through! We both know the result already. It's a success and here to stay. So much has happened and Herbi has done 81 nights without orgasm so there really are no limits. The average is down to 1.33 and will be at 1.14 by 1st November (yes I know I am obsessed with numbers). Still, “once a month is more than enough” is true and the relevant words in there are “more than” so a target of “less the 1.00” applies. I had a thought that in 2025 I should let him come only in the months that have 31 days in them, but that is too rigid and I want to keep some flexibility, control, and mystery in there. Herbs is ready to come again. Every time I see him (naked) he seems to be tight in the little Cobra. A state of readyness indeed. As usual he's ready for a change of cage too after only 4 nights. I don't mind changing from one to another if it means better hygiene, health, or comfort but it's a bit too soon just yet. Sorry Herbi but it's the Cobra for a few more nights yet. Then I think back to the new one would be nice? He's working from home today, which is nice for both of us. Coffee breaks and meals together, hopefully an early finish, and a nice evening ahead. Out to the pub for food or indoors, cook for ourselves or get a takeaway. Decision still to be made.

I wasn't sure what to expect after Herbs orgasm on Monday following 3 month without. It doesn't seem to have made a lot of difference to him though. He's just as hard in the mornings and wants more. Should I stick to the "once is all you get" rule? On balance, I think so. I'm wondering what to do for the next month now. Keeping him waiting but not wanting it to feel like "locked and forgotten" that I've read about. So there'll be teasing and some edging, the edging not just yet though. It's only been five nights so far out of 32. Cuddling up in bed though. That frustrates him. Need to keep things interesting and varied enough until 1st November. Still getting plenty myself of course and he enjoys providing that service. I still like the Cobra too. Hard to pick a favourite (because they all have + and - aspects) but if we only had one and the one was the Cobra, I'd be ok with that. Wonder if he would agree?

Milking - I don’t mean 2 pints! 🥛 If you’re looking for something different to try…

Getting ready to go away for a few days. Some nights in a B&B with plenty of fresh air and walks during the day, shopping, sight-seeing and eating out. Looking forward to the final day when we drop in unannounced at my parents house to see them. It will be a big surprise for them but a happy one I'm sure. Couple of bags packed already for setting off in the morning. Herbi will be changed out of the Cobra I've decided. He can have a few days while we're away in the big cage. It has some advantages. Easy to pee, easy to keep clean and I like it. Also tends to arouse him a bit more. Maybe because it's heavy? I like him to know he's wearing it. He'll enjoy that. Especially at night. He's finishing work early today (at home) so we'll have some dinner and he can have a bath before settling down for an early night in the big one. Going to get some fresh sea air. Bit cold for a dip in the English Channel I think though.

It’s been a few days since you have posted. I always enjoy reading about your journey. Enjoy your trip.

Thank you! We will, I'm sure. Everything's packed and ready for the morning. A few things to finish off tonight including the cage changeover but then we can relax. Well I can at least. Herbs will have something else to do before we settle down for the night.

Returned early from some lovely days away, including an overnight stay at my parents' place who were pleasantly surprised and delighted when we showed up unannounced yesterday. I notice there's a thread to catch up on here, but that can wait until tomorrow now. The bags are unpacked, Herbs has run the washing machine, we've enjoyed a delicious Chinese takeout dinner, taken baths, and are essentially ready for bed already. I plan to have a soothing back massage and at least 2 orgasms before I finally settle down. Herbs stayed in his large steel cage while we were gone, and I've decided to leave him there for another couple of nights as well. He wants out and desires a changeover but not just yet. I really like the big steel model. I can see him through the bars and even touch him, which is nice. It keeps him firm longer than any other cage I've tried. I reckon looking after my needs in a little while will stir his excitement again, though he seems to be getting accustomed to it now. Herbi has no work until Monday, so we have time to take things easy for a bit longer still. He struggled somewhat with falling asleep and staying asleep during our trip (due to the cage). Perhaps he'll make up on sleep tonight and there won't be any need for an early start tomorrow. It's only been 2 weeks since his arrival, so it might be too soon for severe cage fever, but he is becoming a bit irritable. Hoping we both get good rest and wake up feeling refreshed in the morning. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

An easy, relaxing day getting back into normal home life. Last night was good too. The Chinese takeaway was a smart move and was tasty and filling. A soak in the tub was welcome too, hot and soapy and with a willing, nude, caged male handy to get me clean and relaxed. He had a soak as well, which he enjoyed and found just as welcome. The back massage that he gave me was the icing on the cake really. Finally before settling down to sleep some super tongue work and 2 more beans in the jar. Then he cuddled me until I fell asleep.. I do love that so much. Today, a few jobs around the house, a nice lunch, putting things away after the holiday, phoning mum and dad to thank them for the lovely day that we spent with them. Catching up really after the busy days away. We did a fair amount of walking. Herbi is being really good about everything. Haven't had to use the crop at all. No plans for the evening. Might watch a film. Glass of wine maybe. Hang in there Herbs. I can see you're straining against the bars but it's all worth it. I know you don't want to be let out anyway. Think it's time for “Kneel”...

Ah, Sunday. Three beans in the jar already and breakfast in bed. It's great how Herbi has taken to making breakfast at the weekends. I make a point of sitting up in bed ready when I hear him bringing the tray of food and coffee upstairs. It means that the first things he sees as he pushed the door open with his foot are my boobs and I get to watch his caged cock as he enters the room. Simple pleasures, eh? Grey and wet outside but we're going nowhere and it's lovely and warm indoors with no plans other than to take it easy and have a nice traditional Sunday roast. No clothes for Herbi today and some super short shorts for me. There might not be any beans with the Sunday roast, but there will be more beans throughout the day. I like beans. It's amazing how good sex has been since the cages came along. For Herbi too because he gets plenty of sex as well, just not involving his penis. His day will come. And so will he. One day.

On another thread, I put that I was thinking. Herbi responded with "Oh dear..." I questioned him on that. In a series of answers he appeared to be digging a hole. Confirmed when he climbed into it. No amount of back-pedalling could change the overall summary of his answers, which was that "when I think, crazy ideas pop into my head". Really Herbi? Crazy ideas? I was going to use the stick at bedtime but decided that I couldn't wait that long. Crazy idea, right? So it was a case of "All fours. Now!" Then "Hold still" Then a swishing sound, following by a sharp slapping sound, followed by a loud "Arghhh!" "Be quiet and keep still. There's more to come" Dealt with. I am having a lovely day today.

I feel almost guilty about keeping Herbi locked up. This morning he was as horny as heck and very passionate. 3x O for me before breakfast and all without use of his cock, which was looking as if it was trying to break out of the steel. He's over what I've just read is called the Frustration Hump, aka the third week syndrome but still frustrated and was all over me this morning. If he hadn't been caged then it would have been all over in a few seconds. But he was caged so I got my 3x O. So I'm glad he was caged. But still a little bit guilty. Today has tested my resolve and determination. I feel like I ought to let him out but at the same time, he's not due out and he doesn't need to be unlocked. Standing firm. He stays locked.

Truly not my place to interfere in the matter and I’m not even making suggestions, but… When Mrs. G is in your shoes, has a few o’s and starts feeling a bit guilty and welcoming to more pleasure. That’s when she piv edges me. She gets the real deal, loses the guilt, and I still don’t cum. Frustrating as all get out for me, but I do love making her feel good. Like I said not interfering or suggesting just sharing.

Not sure poor Herbie would survive piv lol:o I really shouldn’t laugh should I …….. lol:P MsM’s ld

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 pm > Truly not my place to interfere in the matter and I’m not even making suggestions, but… > When Mrs. G is in your shoes, has a few o’s and starts feeling a bit guilty and welcoming to more pleasure. That’s when she piv edges me. She gets the real deal, loses the guilt, and I still don’t cum. Frustrating as all get out for me, but I do love making her feel good. > Like I said not interfering or suggesting just sharing. PIV edging would be a new step for us. Maybe just we're slow at getting going with this chastity lark! Seriously, we will get there...

> Maybe just we're slow at getting going with this chastity lark! Not slow, just a different path. For example I know of no one in Mrs. G’s life that would serve as a miss. Vikki. For what it’s worth I thoroughly enjoy reading your journey. Herbi is a lucky man.

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:45 am > > Maybe just we're slow at getting going with this chastity lark! > Not slow, just a different path. For example I know of no one in Mrs. G’s life that would serve as a miss. Vikki. Fair enough. Perhaps having another woman involved is weird. I just wanted an emergency key available for Herbs when I was away. Turned out that Vikki was enthusiastic to take part a bit more. That's ok for me. She had a nice evening with us yesterday. Bangers and mash with onion gravy, hence the "That's a lot of sausages" comment from Herbi before he knew she was joining us. When she arrived I sent him to let her in. He'd already had a shower after work and I'd told him "no clothes". As she came in to the house I heard her say "Good to see that you're ready for me" I had my back to them, getting dinner ready, but had to smile to myself.

Having a bit of a lazy moment over a coffee and thinking about where we are. The second half of the year's trial. Herbi's over the third week syndrome of the latest lockup so shouldn't have any trouble completing Locktober and beyond. Beyond because of penalties added. Three weeks to go but there'll be a change of cage soon. The middle-sized steel that he calls tiny. That will be for the rest of the three weeks. With the orgasm-free month of Locktober done, he's average will be down again. At 1.14 we're getting ever closer to our target. Also been musing over the past few months. I wish I'd kept a diary or journal, a real paper and pen thing I mean. I know I could go back over what we've both posted here and make one retrospectively but it'd be quite a task. Also there are things that have happened that never made it onto out threads on here. Might be nice to try though. Herbi's at work today and tomorrow. He's fine and happy. His text message (that he's required to send one - of my rules) confirmed it. "All good. Comfortable and Secure" He's told me that sending that message from work usually gets him hard. I'm fine and happy too. Settled into this lifestyle now. I'm going to sort out another trip to see my parents and the end of November is looking likely. My deputy has confirmed that she's ready to step in. Well done Vikki!

So it's November and we've made it through Locktober, bringing his average down to 1.14 (since April when we started) One more orgasm this year will mean the average of 1.00 is reached. Just a question of whether it's in November or December then. Unlocking not due until 14th November at the earliest, which is almost December anyway, isn't it? Sorry, just thinking out loud. 2025 just around the corner and I wonder if we'll meet the aim of “less then 1.00” on the basis that “once a month is more than enough”. That phrase has stuck! Maybe letting him come in every month that has 31 days in it? There's 7 of those. 7 times in the year then. That would be 0.58 so should keep everybody happy!

> At 1.14 we're getting ever closer to our target. Nice use of the word “our”:lol: As for the paper and pen journal. I did that for the three months prior to joining here. It’s strange to go back and see the trial and errors in cages. The confusion with Mrs. G. And the frustrations with lockups. Strange emotions all around. Now it’s just a part of life. We don’t worry too much about where we go or who we see. The cage is the least of our concerns. Sometimes when we’re out she leaves the key at home. She says if there’s really no reason to worry about having it with us.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:14 am > 2025 just around the corner and I wonder if we'll meet the aim of “less then 1.00” on the basis that “once a month is more than enough”. That phrase has stuck! > Maybe letting him come in every month that has 31 days in it? There's 7 of those. 7 times in the year then. > That would be 0.58 so should keep everybody happy! Or perhaps the months with 30 days. There are 5 of them. The average then is 0.416. And you don't have any consecutive months of cumming, such as July or August. And December and January. The festival of the winter cage, no orgasm for three months. And the party of the summer dry, not having an orgasm for two months.:lol:

Sounds too complicated Waki86, maybe keep it simple? Just once a year on his birthday? 🎁:lol:

Love the help and support for Emmi Poor Herbi, hang in there Buddy.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 6:15 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:14 am > > 2025 just around the corner and I wonder if we'll meet the aim of “less then 1.00” on the basis that “once a month is more than enough”. That phrase has stuck! > > Maybe letting him come in every month that has 31 days in it? There's 7 of those. 7 times in the year then. > > That would be 0.58 so should keep everybody happy! > Or perhaps the months with 30 days. > There are 5 of them. Worryingly, there are actually only 4 waki. Because February only has 28 or 29. So only the months with 30 days is a bit scary. I also don't think Miss Emmie needs any more ideas. She's got plenty of her own!

Just popped in to my thread and realised that I'd not written anything on it for a while. Pleased to see that others have contributed and kept it alive for me. Been a bit of a busy week. Herbi been busy working, sometimes out and sometimes at home. He's getting a bit crazy now and wants out of the middle sized cage but as soon as he's in something else he'll want to change again in no time. As I say, always wanting what is not. He accuses me of talking nonsense because that phrase doesn't make sense but I know what it means and that's good enough. He's due to be unlocked sometime towards the end of next week but does he get to erupt or is it straight into a different cage for a while...?

> does he get to erupt or is it straight into a different cage for a while...? Decisions, decisions, hmmm? Poor guy. Maybe just a drop or two to take a little pressure off the top. Mrs. G has been known to bring forth the slightest dribble in such circumstances. Just enough to let me taste it. Beautifully brutal.:twisted:

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:26 pm > > does he get to erupt or is it straight into a different cage for a while...? > Decisions, decisions, hmmm? Poor guy. Maybe just a drop or two to take a little pressure off the top. > Mrs. G has been known to bring forth the slightest dribble in such circumstances. Just enough to let me taste it. > Beautifully brutal.:twisted: No dribbles yet and he's enjoying the Nub again right now. It seems that I can extend his stay without causing any upset or worries these days. He'll come one day though. Not going to make him wait for ever. A bit of a dilemma for me. If he comes once more in 2024 we hit the average of 1.00 but any more than once and we won't. Not that the average is the be all and end all of course. Maybe I should make 2025 the year of the 'less than once a month' average? Apart from that uncertainty I think I've settled into my role now. Herbi has settled into his too. The year's not up but the trial is already declared a success.

It makes sense to effectively end the year at 1.0 and essentially a reset really. You’ve proved the trial works (especially for you but clearly Herbi also gets benefits) to continue it indefinitely. Once a month or less is an average though- nothing for 3 months but then once a week for 4 weeks would still average once monthly but feel rather different at the start of the 5th month - not knowing if it’s a week or 3 months again…!

The 4 orgasms in April are throwing these numbers off. He’s done 0.5 orgasms per month in the second half of the year. Even getting close to 1.0 in 2025 would be a huge gain (relief?). Thanks to you and Herbert for sharing your journey! Hottest thing on the internet, IMO!

> hot-robot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:25 am > The 4 orgasms in April are throwing these numbers off. He’s done 0.5 orgasms per month in the second half of the year. Even getting close to 1.0 in 2025 would be a huge gain (relief?). > Thanks to you and Herbert for sharing your journey! Hottest thing on the internet, IMO! You're right, the 4 in April was way too many. What was I thinking? To be fair, we were both finding our feet. Glad you like reading but hottest thing on the internet? Really? The ***whole*** internet? That's quite an achievement. The internet is **HUGE**!

> hot-robot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:25 am > Thanks to you and Herbert for sharing your journey! Hottest thing on the internet, IMO! +1

> The whole internet? Yep the whole internet. +2

It's funny how Locktober became 9 weeks but he's nearing the end now and looking forward to unlocking and big-O on Sunday. Then it'll be back in the steel for a while, like maybe December, including while I'm away. Miss Vikki stepping in again. Nice to read that Herbi is “settled” and enjoying the Nub though. Hope he enjoys the next cage as much. Not as much room in that one! (Not that there's ***much*** room in the Nub) I do like the Nub. It's sleek and cute. And secure. Wow, 12 weeks, then 9 weeks, he's done well. Not that there was a choice of course. Proved that there's no need to unlock. And only 4 months until the year's trial is complete. Success, I would say.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:46 pm > Wow, 12 weeks, then 9 weeks, he's done well. Not that there was a choice of course. > Proved that there's no need to unlock. > And only 4 months until the year's trial is complete. Success, I would say. It is not only a great achievement for Herb. How you deal with it is also quite an achievement for you. People often forget that the partner (key holder) also has to do or not do a lot for this. And she will also be allowed to find her way in it (I say deliberately not have to, because not every partner is open to it or can). On to the last few months of your trial.

> . And only 4 months until the year's trial is complete. Success, I would say. We’ll done to you both. The rest of us looking forward to what the next year brings.

Always nice to visit parents. But lovely to get back home. And before it got too dark as well. Didn't want to finish the journey in the dark. I do hope Herbi has behaved himself on here while I've been gone. I hope he's behaved himself in other ways too. I see I've got a lot to catch up with.

Welcome back.

> Mr Pickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:14 am > Welcome back. Thank you! Nice to be home. Doors locked, curtains closed, candle lit, peace & quiet, warm & dry. And the drive is over.

Yes welcome back. We’ve missed you and look forward to hearing from you again. Only after you’ve caught up with herbi first.

Taking it easy today and recovering from yesterday's drive. It was under three hours, yet felt exhausting. A long stretch got stuck due to an accident within some roadworks, which didn't help matters much. It feels great returning home to a warm, cozy house where Herbi had gone shopping, picking out something nice for our evening meal and planning to cook as well. It was one of my favorite winter evenings: doors locked, curtains drawn, the room softly lit by candles alone. Yes, it was a wonderful evening following a lovely week visiting my parents. Herbs is off today too, so it feels like the weekend already with no pressing jobs demanding attention; we can just relax. He did well managing the middle-sized steel cage while I was away, so as a little reward I've switched him over to the Nub for a next few days. There's slightly more room to move around in, but not excessively! Poor lamb thought he might actually get his release, but it turned out to be just a hygiene swap. I'm gradually catching up on all the threads and posts I missed during my week away.

I hadn't realized how much time had passed since my last post here. It has been busy preparing for Christmas along with all the other tasks, and time seems to have slipped by so quickly. Another change happened for Herbi yesterday. I don't think he quite keeps up with everything that's going on anymore. He is accustomed to waiting two weeks or more between changes, yet in December alone he has already had three different cages. It’s nice to vary things a bit. Also unusual for him to experience more than one orgasm within a single month. This happened last night. I'm not entirely sure he enjoyed having to do it all by himself! Now he is back in the big cage and really feeling its effects. From what I gather, he's having quite a hard day of it. It’s nice how the larger device does that; it makes things very entertaining. It feels good to be ***free of obligation sex*** while simultaneously keeping him ***in a state of readiness***.

> . Not sure he liked having to do it himself very much! I don't mean to hijack your thread or pry too deeply. But I am somewhat curious. I know how much Mrs. G enjoys a good orgasm from my efforts, and I also thoroughly enjoy watching her bring one on herself, even though that pleasure is rare for me. For what it’s worth, Mrs. G usually gets a good chuckle out of seeing me please myself; sometimes there's cleanup involved, but often she just enjoys knowing I did it at her request, despite my commitment to refrain from such activities. Most recently, this ties into her desire so-called "teach" me self-discipline through me ruining. As for how things stand with us now, I revel in watching her while she finds the whole situation humorous. She truly has my mind wrapped up in her hands. So my question is: what do you think about Herbi bringing himself to an orgasm? If it doesn't bother you to ask.

No, I don't mind you asking. For me, it was a bit of fun watching him get uncomfortable with having me ***make*** him do that using just words, simply by telling him to. And he ***was indeed*** uncomfortable. It got inside his head. I enjoyed the entire experience, not merely his discomfort; seeing him work himself there, ejaculate, and then lick me clean made me smile, even though he found it awkward.

I hope everyone is ready for the holiday season. Whether you celebrate Christmas, New Year, both, or neither, make the most of your break. I think we are prepared: Food stocks are topped up. The drinks cabinet is full. A visit to Herbi's family has been planned. The house is warm and cozy despite the weather outside. Herbi is nice and secure in his cage. Everything sounds good to me.

Poor Herbi. I didn’t see anything on the list regarding whether his fairy outfit had been cleaned and pressed yet.:lol:

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:54 am > Poor herbi, I didn’t see anything on the list about the fairy outfit being cleaned and pressed.:lol: Awww, it has to earn its keep by getting worn enough to justify the expense of buying it initially. After all, it cost me around £10 on eBay!

Well done with the caged orgasm! Maybe not everyone agrees with it—some prefer stricter Monastic rules of black and white—but it is a useful option. In terms of mathematics, though, I’d rate it at 0.5. This means he could have one such release while still keeping his overall ratio below one. A ruined orgasm is definitely different from none at all, possibly worse than no orgasm entirely. So perhaps that counts as only 0.25. But what truly matters isn’t the math but the fun you are both having. Looking forward to 2025!

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑ Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:54 am > Poor herbi, I didn’t see anything on the list about the fairy outfit being cleaned and pressed.:lol: Awww, it has to earn its keep by getting worn enough to justify the expense of buying it initially. After all, it cost me around £10 on eBay!

You go girl. Sounds absolutely wonderful. There are many times I wish we could achieve something similar. Congratulations. Btw, I know it’s holiday season and all, but how is Miss Vikki these days?

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑ Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:58 am > You go girl. Sounds absolutely wonderful. There are many times I wish we could achieve something similar. Congratulations. > Btw, I know it’s holiday season and all, but how is Miss Vikki these days? Thanks. Here's to 2025! No news or visits lately but I expect she'll join us soon. Once her man's football evenings start up again. Not sure when that will be but I suspect early January. Herbs will have to be ready whether she visits or not of course. Apart from one forgetful occasion, he's very well behaved in that respect. Suppose it's a simply enough rule: Tuesday evening = no clothes.

December was a busy month, and Christmas busy and exciting too, so now things can calm down and get into the normal routine. Winter evenings with nice meals, candlelight etc. We're good at that sort of thing and it will be lovely. I actually enjoy winter. Herbi is locked for January, currently enjoying his 'big steel' and not knowing when or if it will get changed for something else anytime soon. I think he wants a change but he's only worn this one for 11 days so far, and I think he can wait a bit longer. I also think (after having an idea planted in my head) that his next release might end up being mid February instead of the end of January. That will get the new year off to a good start. We've completed 9 months now. It means that I know for certain that he can cope with lengthy lockups if I want. He's had a hard day today. Been straining against the metal a lot. But I don't feel the need to worry about it. Confident that he's safe and not going to come to any harm when locked. And also knowing that there's no harm in him being frustrated. What a great journey! Happy 2025 everyone.

Happy New Year Miss E and Herbi. Have a great 12 months exploring and enjoying new ideas. Whatever works for you but you’ve got to try everything at least, once, eh? 😁

Exploring new ideas, yep! Another first for Herbi will be our holiday at the end of April. When told that he'll be Nubbed for the duration, he took the news rather well, I thought.

Obviously, you cannot say but will it be a nudist beach like at Cap D’Agde? They are cool about chastity cages, piercings etc there. I certainly don’t see why he should be unlocked just because it’s the holidays. After all, it was for the year and potentially a permanent arrangement since it’s been so successful.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑ Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:20 am > Obviously, you cannot say but will it be a nudist beach like at Cap D’Agde? They are cool about chastity cages, piercings etc there. > I certainly don’t see why he should be unlocked just because it’s the holidays. After all, it was for the year and potentially a permanent arrangement since it’s been so successful. Well, we're not nudists but don't mind others choosing to be. We will wear our usual 'limited coverage' beachwear so that we can get a tan (hopefully). The stretch of coast where we're going has many beaches ranging from tiny coves to long sandy stretches. Many are nude, others clothing optional, but all are welcoming, friendly, relaxed places. No doubt some CO beaches will be on our list as they are such lovely places to visit. No need for unlocking as you say. Two weeks to relax and enjoy our first holiday abroad since Covid.... But he'll be secure in the Cobra.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑ Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:26 am > Exploring new ideas, yep! > Another first for Herbi will be our holiday at the end of April. > When told that he'll be Nubbed for the duration, he took the news rather well, I thought. new ideas, Does Vicki get rewarded with an O by Herbi or if Miss Vicki will be more involved in 2025?

> gggxthree wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 7:09 pm > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:26 am > > Exploring new ideas, yep! > > Another first for Herbi will be our holiday at the end of April. > > When told that he'll be Nubbed for the duration, he took the news rather well, I thought. > new ideas, Does Vicki get rewarded with an O by Herbi > or if Miss Vicki will be more involved in 2025? Miss Vikki only acts as a deputy keyholder during emergencies, but she does enjoy her Tuesday evening visits. We'll have to see what the year holds for us.

The beginning of 2025 feels like turning to a new page, if not an entirely new chapter for me. Since Herbi is at work, I've found myself reflecting on our past few months and where we are heading next. After nine months in this chastity trial, I feel we have transitioned from "beginners" to "intermediates". I haven't asked Herbi yet if he shares that view, but it's something we'll discuss. We seem settled with four good cages to choose from. They all work well. None cause any issues whatsoever. And I like each of them for their own reasons. It feels like the right time to take stock. New year, resetting expectations to zero. What do I want moving forward? Herbi has become quite skilled at not asking about his cage or changes, and he rarely complains even when frustrated. He understands the consequences and accepts that they remain in place. Any behavioral issues will be handled using my chosen penalties. These range from longer denial to the paddle, stick, or cane, or simply removing access to his phone or computer. If I had a specific "naughty" cage available, switching him into it could serve as punishment, but I feel all the cages are fairly equal and I have no real desire to buy more. Over the coming year, I won't obsess over numbers or averages; instead, I'll stick to a simple theme: one release per month is plenty. Experience has shown that Herbi can last 12 weeks without an orgasm, unlocking only for hygiene purposes. If he can do it once, he can certainly do it again. I'm not claiming that 12 weeks will become the standard rule, but let's just say there won't be as many opportunities for him to come over the next year. Some calendar months will remain orgasm-free, just like last year. In fact, we are starting with one of those months right now. He stays locked throughout January. I'm also not going to change his cage very often. Although he is always ready for a swap after sometimes only two days, that won't happen unless I specifically want it to. He will get used to longer intervals between changes. The large cage he wears currently is particularly easy to clean and suitable for extended periods. I think we might settle into 2-4 weeks between swaps from now on, but I'll go with what feels right rather than sticking strictly to the numbers. Perhaps this shift from beginner to intermediate is more about attitude than physical change. The intended result is longer periods between changes and fewer orgasms. I hope Herbi is content with his current situation because he doesn't have much room for negotiation, and I won't tolerate any nonsense. To be clear, I am ***very*** happy with how things are going. Taking a little time to think this over has been useful, and writing it down here has helped solidify my ideas. Yes, it's been worth the effort.

Wow. I was on a break at work and this was the first thing I read. In fact, I read it twice. Suddenly, I see where that "extra week in the big cage" came from. Everything is falling into place under Miss Emmie's grand plan. Oh wow.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:20 am > The beginning of 2025 feels like turning to a new page, if not an entirely new chapter for me. > After nine months in this chastity trial, I feel we have transitioned from "beginners" to "intermediates". > I haven't asked Herbi yet if he shares that view, but it's something we'll discuss. > Herbi has become quite skilled at not asking about his cage or changes, and he rarely complains even when frustrated. He understands the consequences and accepts that they remain in place. > Any behavioral issues will be handled using my chosen penalties. > These range from longer denial to the paddle, stick, or cane, or simply removing access to his phone or computer. If I had a specific "naughty" cage available, switching him into it could serve as potential punishment, but I feel all the cages are fairly equal and I have no real desire to buy more. > Over the coming year, I won't obsess over numbers or averages; instead, I'll stick to a simple theme: one release per month is plenty. > Experience has shown that Herbi can last 12 weeks without an orgasm, unlocking only for hygiene purposes. > If he can do it once, he can certainly do it again. > I'm not claiming that 12 weeks will become the standard rule, but let's just say there won't be as many opportunities for him to come over the next year. Some calendar months will remain orgasm-free, just like last year. In fact, we are starting with one of those months right now. > He stays locked throughout January. > Perhaps this shift from beginner to intermediate is more about attitude than physical change. > The intended result is longer periods between changes and fewer orgasms. > I hope Herbi is content with his current situation because he doesn't have much room for negotiation, and I won't tolerate any nonsense. > To be clear, I am ***very*** happy with how things are going. *@MrsLockNkey* 👀❤️

> denied_one wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:05 am > @MrsLockNkey 👀❤️ Huh?? What????

Not sure if this is a new kind of spam? If not *@denied_one*, you can simply click the heart to indicate approval or liking instead of pasting everything again. Or use @name with a comment if you want to grab their attention. Or, after reading through the following, make your own link page. You can add it to your journey and update it as needed. Sorry to jump into your thread *@KHEmmi*.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:08 am > > denied_one wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:05 am > > @MrsLockNkey 👀❤️ > Huh?? > What???? I mentioned my Wife/KH in the quoted text because it's definitely something she would want Herbi to read. My apologies; I'm not entirely clear on the nuances of tagging or quoting here in this particular corner of the Internet. Thank you so much for your typed journey. Both of you are welcome.

The most important thing is that both partners are satisfied with chastity. It doesn't matter if there are many orgasms, between-orgasm periods, ruined orgasms, or no orgasm at all. Nor does it matter how many cages you use versus how many you own. The key is growing into the lifestyle together to the satisfaction of everyone involved. As a person in chastity, you might desire various things regarding what your partner (the key holder) does or doesn't do. But reality often differs from expectations. As a man, you can only go along with it if they want a system that works for both sides. Consequently, you learn a great deal from each other emotionally and physically through body contact.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:41 am > The most important thing is that both partners are satisfied with chastity. It doesn't matter if there are many orgasms, between-orgasm periods, ruined orgasms, or no orgasm at all. > Nor does it matter how many cages you use versus how many you own. > The key is growing into the lifestyle together to the satisfaction of everyone involved. > As a person in chastity, you might desire various things regarding what your partner (the key holder) does or doesn't do. > But reality often differs from expectations. > As a man, you can only go along with it if they want a system that works for both sides. > Consequently, you learn a great deal from each other emotionally and physically through body contact. Thanks waki! 2025 is going to bring some changes. A step up in the journey. Herbi has already commented that reality differs somewhat from what he anticipated regarding his experience with chastity. I hope it's for the better!

Any approach is valid even if later events prove otherwise. Together you will learn new things and continue to grow.

I just realized it is five weeks today until Valentine's Day! There! That isn't too far away, is it?

That truly is not that distant anymore.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:50 am > That truly is not that distant anymore. Ah, but you see, the point of my post is that Valentine's Day marks Herbi's next planned unlocking for a fun date. To him, it might feel like an eternity away.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:16 am > > waki86 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:50 am > > That truly is not that distant anymore. > Ah, but you see, the point of my post is that Valentine's Day marks Herbi's next planned unlocking for a fun date. > To him, it might feel like an eternity away. I understood that as well. Something lovely for Herbi to look forward to on this special day. And an extra incentive to keep things going.😉

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:52 am > I just realized it is five weeks today until Valentine's Day! > There! That isn't too far away, is it? That is a very nice way to look at it. It really isn't long at all.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:15 am > I've learnt that the paddle will be called into service again if I'm caught on my phone or laptop after 6pm without permission. The above, as the date and time will show, is what Herbi acknowledged on Saturday. Then look at what he did yesterday. Note the date and **time**! > KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:01 pm > Me: This big cage is driving me insane. > Em: OK. Is there a problem with it? > Me: Yes! It's driving me bloody insane. > Em: That's not a problem. Is there a problem with it? > Me: I guess not then. > Em: Good. I think we've found your naughty cage.

It seems that khEmmi has rightfully become judge, jury, and executioner.:lol:

Herbi, May I offer to represent you in this very minor infraction of your curfew? Ark

> ARK wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:00 pm > Herbi, > May I offer to represent you in this very minor infraction of your curfew? > Ark :lol::lol::lol::geek:

One minute? Really! That is so tough. Maybe poor Herbi's phone has a delay? Or some timeline glitch or it took a few seconds for the signal to reach America after hitting the button. Actually, could it just be one second, yes? Now that I think of it, I'm sure we were at the pub then and the clock said 5:59. Okay, maybe I wasn't actually there myself, but I'm certain someone who looks like me was present to verify this. Anyone? Anyone?

> Mr Pickle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:01 pm > One minute? Really! That is so tough. In my post, I merely pointed it out. I didn't say I was going to do anything about it. But could I? Couldn't I?:lol:

I missed that part of the post sorry Miss Emmie. Well if anything I showed I still have balls right? Have a good night. Yours. Mr p

> Mr Pickle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:01 pm > One minute? Really! That is so tough. > Maybe poor Herbi's phone has a delay? Or some timeline glitch or it took a few seconds for the signal to reach America after hitting the button. > Actually, could it just be one second, yes? > Now that I think of it, I'm sure we were at the pub then and the clock said 5:59. > Okay, maybe I wasn't actually there myself, but I'm certain someone who looks like me was present to verify this > Anyone? > Anyone? Oooh! That was very brave of you. Where did that come from? Frustrated darling?

No. Yes.

> Mr Pickle wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:01 pm > One minute? Really! That is so tough. > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:33 am > > KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:15 am > > I've learnt that the paddle will be called into service again if I'm caught on my phone or laptop after ***6pm*** without permission. > The above, as the date and time will show, is what Herbi acknowledged on Saturday. > Then look at what he did yesterday. Note the date and **time**! > > KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:01 pm > That looks more like 2 hours & 1 minute to me.:D

I'm pleased with my decision to wait longer between cage changes for Herbs. He has spent four weeks in the big one and I think he has become more attentive because of that. He is also behaving nicely these days. I believe he has settled into his role well. Now he is wearing the middle-sized S99 for a while. He didn't come out during the swap-over. Maybe he's getting a bit cranky, but switching to a different cage might take the edge off that? He often says that he "always wants what is not" (he says those words even though they don't quite make sense and I suppose they don't), wanting a change of cage every few days. None of that anymore. We do things in weeks, not days, now. I enjoyed the four weeks with the big cage. It holds his cock at a good size for viewing and arouses him significantly too. I like watching him strain against the bars. Hope I enjoy this middle-sized one just as much. There is less to see with him all scrunched up, but it's nice knowing he can feel his erections being denied. I like to think that by Valentine's Day, he will be pretty frantic with frustration. Ooo, that cage looks tight today. 2025 has started off well.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:27 am > Hope I enjoy this middle-sized one just as much. There is less to see with him all scrunched up, but it's nice knowing he can feel his erections being denied. > I like to think that by Valentine's Day, he will be pretty frantic with frustration. > Ooo, that cage looks tight today. Glad you're enjoying it, Miss Emmie. We won't have to wait until Valentine's Day for that confirmation. It is.:oops:

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:27 am > the big cage holds his cock at a good size for viewing and arouses him a lot too. Who would have guessed that those words would prompt Herbi to start a new thread about chastity being weird and then a discussion about ADHD starting up. Isn't it great how one topic leads to another? I do like his big cage though. Especially after he'd worn it long enough to get well frustrated by it. At 3.8cm it's just a bit shorter than his cock when relaxed so he always fills it, and like my words said, it: hold it nice and still stops it growing lengthwise allows just a little growth before it's suddenly nice and tight keeps the little chap pointing downwards of course, all the time rules out masturbation rubs and arouses keeps it nicely on view between the bars With all those plus points it really has to be a favourite, doesn't it? Love it and love watching Herbi in it. He's into his second night of the next size down tonight though. Safe and squished in 2cm of steel.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:07 pm > He's into his second night of the next size down tonight though. Safe and squished in 2cm of steel. In the same boat as Mr.P now. Bon voyage boys!

> . Bon voyage boys! Moving forward from kh telepathy to swapping phone numbers for a direct chat. Scary stuff!

Feeling better by the day, shaking off this cold. Bit of a lingering cough and a swishy/popping ear but the pain has gone. On the mend I think. Herbi has been a bit neglected while I was unwell and he also suffered from a bit of a cold too. Fortunately neither of us got it as bad as many other people did. There's a lot of colds, flu, and covid around. We got off lightly (this time). We were lucky. He's been wearing his 2cm 'observatory' cage for the past week and a half. No moving around or expanding in that one. Nice and tight! Must be frustrating, eh Herbs? Little while longer yet though. Sticking to the plan. Guided by my own 2025 goals and objectives. Now we're both feeling well we can have some fun again. The beans haven't been harvested as diligently as they should have. Understandably. There must be a backlog. Get to work, Herbi!

We've made it to February with the orgasm count for the year so far intact at zero. The average per month for 2025 therefore also stands at zero point zero zero. With February being such a short month anyway, it hardly seems worth spoiling those nice round zeroes by unlocking for an orgasm does it?

But then, using that logic, you might as well say zero for the whole of 2025, which seems a bit harsh on Herbi. You would definitely have to instigate milking sessions instead.

Now that Herbi has had his treat, his first O of 2025, and is back in his nice little Cobra Nub, I can plan ahead. Next release 1st April as long as he behaves himself. that's 46 days. Any days when he doesn't behave won't count, delaying that 1st April release. This will be a record for him in the Cobra. It will make 12 x O during the full year of the trial. That's once a month. Oh, heck, hang on. I've overdone it. Once a month is more than enough, isn't it? Better news is that from 1st January until the end of the trial with just the one O (last night's one), means an average of just 0.33 for 2025. I said “less than 1.00” didn't I? I hope he manages the next 6.5 weeks or 46 days without a change out of the Cobra. Happy for him to wear something different ***after*** that, up until our holiday at least. I want him back in the Cobra in time for the holiday though. Two weeks relaxing in a (hopefully) warm sunny climate. Lying on the beach and swimming in the sea. Nice food. Nice drinks. Sight-seeing and shopping. Walking the coastal path... Lovely to imagine and can't wait. First holiday abroad since Covid and first holiday with Herbi locked in his cage. So the end of the trial anyway and I've told Herbi to prepare. I want an essay (2000 words) in which he explains how the last year has gone. The good points, the not so good, what he's enjoyed, and what he hasn't. A comparison of his cages would be good too. But they are to be his own words. We can use it as the basis for our discussion during the review session. Herbi is rather quiet today. Perhaps he's worn out after last night. All our Saturday jobs are done anyway, and we're not going out anywhere. Stay in the warm and dry and snuggle up together. I think I'll go and change into my shorts and then think about what we can have to eat tonight... Beans. I feel like some beans...

> I want an essay (2000 words) That’s awesome!:lol:

I've just realised that I haven't written on here for almost two weeks. Not since Herbi was Nubbed after his Valentine's Day treat. I've not talked about his cage or his penis or anything about how it's going directly to him and he's not allowed to talk about it either unless there's a problem. So he's just having to put up with it in silence. A new tactic. He's not locked and forgotten though. He still gets teased, cuddled, etc. He's 2 weeks into his 6 1/2 week Cobra stint. I have to say he's being very good about it but I think it's getting to him now. Waking up hard in the mornings but otherwise not very often, except when teased or pleasing me. And of course when Vikky was here on Tuesday. That got him hard! This will be his longest spell in the Cobra Nub. He has had two edges over the past 2 weeks. Maybe another one sometime but not yet I think. No orgasm for him until April!

Well, I've just about done it! I said at the outset that I was determined to stick to the plan and give chastity a fair trial lasting a full year and in 14 day's time, that year will be up. We will sit down and have a review. Herbi will have written his essay about his experiences, what went well, what didn't, what he likes, what he doesn't. He's been told that he has to identify positives and negatives. I am sure it will be an interesting read. I will complete my own essay and I've given myself similar objectives. Without pre-empting the outcome of the review, or indeed the year's trial, I would say that things have gone pretty well. Settled with our 4 cages and Herbi has learnt to behave himself. I've learnt to take charge too and it's not too hard to be a dom, I've decided. I have tried recently to just live the lifestyle and not be too analytical (no easy for me as I love numbers and stats). However, I can't help sharing my delight in knowing that at the end of the trial (1 April 2024 – 31 March 2025) Herbi will have had only 12 orgasms, despite having four in the first month! One a month – achieved! I have reminded him that “Once a month is ***more than enough***” though so he can expect less over the next year. As well as our “chastity year” (April to March) we have the calendar year as well. So far in this calendar year, he's had one orgasm (on Valentine's Day). His average at the end of March in a few day's time, will be 0.33 and I think that's just great. So on the home straight now. What fun it has been so far. Keep going Herbi, you're nearly there and "Year 2, here we come!"

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:56 am > "Year 2, here we come!" To the best of my memory, we were going to decide whether there would actually ***be*** a year 2 during the review at the end of year 1... Maybe the hormones have addled my brain.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:46 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:56 am > > "Year 2, here we come!" > To the best of my memory, we were going to decide whether there would actually ***be*** a year 2 during the review at the end of year 1... > Maybe the hormones have addled my brain. This journey is such a pleasure to read! Both essays are lovely It seems like the decision has basically been made 😸 And with that wonderful yearly average of 0.33 for the year👀👀

Serious inquiry here: I see the year-long experiment has been a success, but to really make that choice, you need to discuss it. You are both writing your essays and will have that talk. But the main question for each of you (and deep inside yourselves) is: “Do I want to keep going, and what happens if the other person doesn’t?” “Can I accept a ‘No’ answer?” Will that create drama in our relationship? Then there's the flip side - are we both content with this level of intensity, or does one of us wish it were stronger? I imagine you've pondered these points. Like most questions, they seem obvious until pressed for an answer, then suddenly something unexpected shifts! The decision is yours alone; if you drop off from posting here, we'll likely figure it out on our own. Regardless, enjoy the final stretch of year one, and good luck with your conversation.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 3:38 pm > Serious inquiry here: I see the year-long experiment has been a success, but to really make that choice, you need to discuss it. > You are both writing your essays and will have that talk. > But the main question for each of you (and deep inside yourselves) is: > “Do I want to keep going, and what happens if the other person doesn’t?” > “Can I accept a ‘No’ answer?” Will that create drama in our relationship? > Then there's the flip side - are we both content with this level of intensity, or does one of us wish it were stronger? > I imagine you've pondered these points. Like most questions, they seem obvious until pressed for an answer, then suddenly something unexpected shifts! > The decision is yours alone; if you drop off from posting here, we'll likely figure it out on our own. > Regardless, enjoy the final stretch of year one, and good luck with your conversation. 💯

A sensible point and you're right; we have considered it. The truth is that we both realize a 'Yes' from two parties is needed to proceed. Your note about raising the intensity holds water too, something not discussed as much but certainly up for debate if necessary. I believe until we hold our review after swapping and reading each other's essays, true future paths will remain unclear. We'll soon see what comes of it. It feels like just yesterday that this year began!

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:24 am > The truth is that we both realize a 'Yes' from two parties is needed to proceed. That sounds reasonable. Just as long as Miss Vikki doesn't get voting rights too...

WHAT Miss Vikki is actually a member of the forum. Gentlemen we need to straighten up. Having Miss Emmi, Miss Vikki, Miss C, Miss Red, and Miss Michele as active members here is lovely but also troublesome for those in lock. Gentlemen we are in big trouble if Miss R and Miss G join the forum. (Herbie, I remembered to use Miss so that fellow members do not get the ouchy stick)

> ARK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:01 am > Miss Vikki is actually a member of the forum. I know she reads my journal and at least some of Miss Emmie's, but mostly as a guest. To my knowledge, she hasn't officially joined as a full member yet. But I could be mistaken on that.

> . Gentlemen we are in big trouble if Miss R and Miss G join the forum. > (Herbie, I remembered to use Miss so that fellow members do not get the ouchy stick) Never let Mrs. G catch you using any other title besides Mrs. She will give you a lifetime of chewing out your ass. Once at work they gave her a name plate reading Ms. G. She ripped it off the door and threw it on her new employer's desk, telling him she was married and expected to be treated as such. That old supervisor became a great friend to our family. That event still brings laughs even now. Twenty-five years later, she still has that name plate. Life with Mrs. G is good.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:50 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:24 am > > The truth is that we both realize a 'Yes' from two parties is needed to proceed. > That sounds reasonable. > Just as long as Miss Vikki doesn't get voting rights too... See? I wouldn't have even said it. My Wife would absolutely do exactly that though. So here's the question....do you REALLY, deep down inside, want Miss Vicki TO HAVE A VOTE?!

Correction: Mrs. G I do not want anyone’s ass whopped because of my mistake.

The year is up. The review is complete. The decision stands. We will continue on. Wow, what a year! The talk was relaxed and easy. Both of us had already thought about it deeply while preparing our separate essays; having read each other's beforehand gave us plenty to discuss from the start. It truly felt like a proper review: looking at where we started, key points along the way, benefits and drawbacks, highs and lows. What stood out most was how much there was to talk about regarding those early days and first few months compared with very little needing discussion in recent weeks and months. Our conclusion is that chastity has become such a normal, taken-for-granted part of our lives now; there are no lingering issues or points demanding debate. Just high points and benefits remain. We estimate it took about four months to truly 'get used to' the state: adjusting to being in lock, managing disrupted nights, and finding workarounds for any niggling problems. Once those hurdles were cleared and a solid routine established, everything else fell into place smoothly. Herbi agrees with this assessment. He mentions he doesn't often think “Oh, I'm caged. Isn't that weird?” but simply accepts it as part of his daily existence now. In reality, this feeling has likely been true for 8 or 9 months already. He is quite relaxed wearing the cage; walking around doing morning routines and showers without trying to hide what he wears. He just gets on with life. The discussion was rewarding, and writing those essays proved worthwhile. There was significant emphasis placed upon benefits and enjoyment, alongside acknowledgment of unavoidable inconveniences. We both voted secretly and independently whether to continue. Two folded pieces of paper were only opened at the end; both bore 'Continue'. It was unanimous then. Into year two we go. The average will stay under one this coming year. He has proven it is possible, and I know it holds value.

Great to hear you two are aligned! Just to clarify quickly—is that an average of less than one orgasm per month, not just a single occurrence for the whole year? Just teasing! Well done. Presumably, as KH, you have ideas about other achievements you wish to pursue with Herbi, and perhaps Herbi will share them (or keep quiet). But as I mentioned earlier, are you also agreed on the intensity level? Or maybe you don’t want to reveal too much…

It’s good for you both. It seems like a genuine, grounded chat between the two of you, free from outside interference. I imagine Herbi was still locked up during your talk, but I wonder how things would have played out if the cage and key were placed right there on the table in front of you. Visible to everyone. Perhaps it makes no difference at all. Just wondering.

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:01 am > I’m sure herbi was still locked during the conversation, but, how would it have gone if the cage and key were on the table between the two of you. Plainly visible to you both. Interesting thought. May have been quite a distraction having it there on view all the time. You are correct though. I remained locked for the discussion.

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:40 am > Good to hear you’re both in agreement! > Just to clarify, that’s an average of less than one per month, not just once in the year? Just kidding! > Well done. > Presumably, as KH, you have ideas as to what other achievements you wish to make with Herbi and perhaps Herbi will enlighten us (or not) but as I mentioned before, are you also agreed about the intensity? But maybe you don’t want to give to much away… Technically he could have 11 over the year and that would be less than one a month but... I don't know, does that seem a littler generous? Herbi doesn't need to know about intensity. He's agreed that he wants to carry on and that's good enough.

I thought that as Herbi has been good about his changeover to the big cage, I'd give him a treat last night. Oh no, no, no! Nothing involving use of the key. I've got no need for the cage contents at the moment. Instead I met him at the front door when he arrived home from work. I'd changed into the fairy costume to greet him. His face was a picture. His eyes go a bit bezoomy at times like that not knowing where to look first, and then where next. “My eyes are up here” I reminded him when he became fixated on my boobs for some reason. So a whole evening with me in the costume. Corset top, stockings and suspenders under the little tutu skirt. He likes bare thighs, does Herbi. Oh and I little g-string in case I needed to bend down to pick anything up during the evening. The tutu doesn't really hide my bum anyway but never mind. I think he enjoyed it. He went to bed hard and happy anyway and woke up at 4:30 or some silly hour, hard again in the steel. Well done Herbi. Keep it up! Oh you can't, can you? It's kept pointing downwards these days.

It’s good to see that you’re taking such good care of Herbi. He is a lucky man. But then again many of us on here are also, to have that special woman in our lives who will tend to our hearts desires.

I have really enjoyed reading your journeys. Thanks so much! Would it be possible for us to see the essays? I just feel it would be beneficial for those of us in similar situations to understand the > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:44 am > key points along the way, benefits and drawbacks, high points and lows. > We think it took four months to 'get used to' chastity, get used to the cages, the disturbed nights, and find ways around any niggling issues. > It was a good discussion and the essays were worth the effort. > There was plenty of emphasis on the benefits and the fun. > With recognition of the unavoidable inconveniences. If not, I totally get it. No worries at all! Sincerely, D.

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:55 am > > Rufusstone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:40 am > > Good to hear you’re both in agreement! > > Just to clarify, that’s an average of less than one per month, not just once in the year? Just kidding! > > Well done. > > Presumably, as KH, you have ideas as to what other achievements you wish to make with Herbi and perhaps Herbi will enlighten us (or not) but as I mentioned before, are you also agreed about the intensity? But maybe you don’t want to give to much away… > Technically he could have 11 over the year and that would be less than one a month but... I don't know, does that seem a littler generous? > Herbi doesn't need to know about intensity. He's agreed that he wants to carry on and that's good enough. How absolutely WIGGLY! *Edit* tried to delete this, it won't let me

> cagedbasilisk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 7:20 am > Would it be possible for us to see the essays? Yeah, I might do that sometime. Probably doesn't add much to what's already been on here but a retrospective look at a whole year might at once be worth a read I guess.

Quick question- you’ve both agreed to carry on but is that for another set 12 months like this has been or is it now indefinite until someone (maybe Herbi!) calls for a timeout?

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 09, 2025 4:42 am > Quick question- you’ve both agreed to carry on but is that for another set 12 months like this has been or is it now indefinite until someone (maybe Herbi!) calls for a timeout? It's another 12 months. We'll have another review on 1-Apr-2026!

> Chosen_Jackal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:13 am > I try to stay out of other people’s threads as much as possible, but I think you’ll find that you can train your man, but his penis will forever remain an eternal optimist Miss Emmie. Nice to see and to be able to report that after his orgasm on Sunday, and a couple of subdued days after that, Herbs is now back to normal. He woke straining hard against and bulging through the bars of his lovely steel cage this morning:) Me: What's the little guy getting so excited about in there? Hasn't he learnt that he's not getting out for a while yet so there's no point straining?

I try to stay out of other people’s threads as much as possible, but I think you’ll find that you can train your man, but his penis will forever remain an eternal optimist Miss Emmie.

> Chosen_Jackal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:13 am > ... but his penis will forever remain an eternal optimist Miss Emmie. One year in and I'd sort of arrived at that conclusion already. No end in sight then of all the straining and frustration.

> Chosen_Jackal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:13 am > I try to stay out of other people’s threads as much as possible, but I think you’ll find that you can train your man, but his penis will forever remain an eternal optimist Miss Emmie. I try to do the same, because I think there's too much of this "journal bombing" going on. However, some posts, and I include yours here, are welcome because they are relevant to the thread, are therefore of interest, and possibly even add something new. So thanks for posting! The posts from those that have nothing to say but say it anyway are the ones that irritate me so if you can't add anything of interest, please go away.

Aww cute little steel again for Herbi with no room to expand and no fun as he waits for his holiday. I'm looking forward to getting away for some fun and some sun. Herbi is too. Good food and drink, warm and sunny days (we hope), mountains and beaches. On top of all that he'll have the luxury of spending the fortnight in his Cobra Nub, which I am sure he'll appreciate after the 2cm of steel. Not long to wait now. For the holiday I mean. When he next gets to come is another matter entirely.

As Herbs has already said, the holiday was great and just what we needed. Lots of walking on the coastal path with stops at coves and beaches along the way to cool off in the sea. Lots of sunbathing and swimming. A drive into the Pyrenees where it was very cold. We didn't stop there very long. Lots of good food and drink. And doing whatever we pleased all the time. Herbs was very well behaved. No fuss or complaints from him and he kept me well satisfied. He will be back to work tomorrow. There's jobs to do but it's mainly a lazy day today. So back to normal. Herbi is comfortable in the Cobra so I'll leave things alone for a while yet. We started our second year on 1st April and he had an orgasm on the 6th so his average is 0.50 at the moment. Counting from 1st April I mean. Not the whole of 2025. If I let him come in May that will make it twice in two months, average of 1.00 and that's too high. So he'll have to wait. I'm thinking at least another month.

Already missing my morning swim in the pool... But holidays have to come to and end, don't they? It's fun to watch Herbi's mind slowly arriving at the conclusion that he's going to remain locked. He seemed to have this idea that we would get home and the Cobra would be off for some fun. Well, he did get some fun. Just not allowed to come. All the clues are there for him to read. And in this morning's journal post things appear to have finally clicked in his brain. So nice! The simple fact is that he came in April, the first month of our "Chastity New Year" so his average was immediately 1.00 which we all know is more than enough. If I let him come in May, it will be twice in 2 months so the average will still be 1.00 and we're not having that. Herbi, you've seen 1,00 for the last time! Get that average down!

How nice to see that Herbi has posted in his journal that he is "just waiting" and is "going to try not to think!" That's perfect. There's no need for him to think. He simply has to do as he is told, keep me satisfied, and wait. How difficult can it be? He is being well-behaved these days so I've got no complaints. I get plenty of attention, fun, and orgasms. Willingly donated by Herbs, I have to say. He's a good boy. This evening will be the first time we've seen Vikki since our holidays. It will be great to tell her all the news. Herbs can show her his tan too.

Such fun!

> Rufusstone wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 10:24 am > Such fun! Oh, it is!

It looks as if Herbi thinks that I've “changed up a gear” since we got home from holiday. Just by reading his journal. Not really. It's just that we've both settled into the chastity lifestyle and it's all just about getting on with life as usual. That's not to say that it's dull and boring and routine, and also definitely not a lock-and-forget scenario either. It's just that this is where we are and we're not experimenting any more. We've already found what works. Maybe I was rather more matter-of-fact about the changeover to a different cage, but it's only because I like to chop and change. I've read what Herbi has written about his various cages. I agree with what he says. The smaller cages (that I call middle-sized, hehehe) keep him tightly confined. I like that. I think two weeks in those is a long time. One of those two is definitely his naughty cage now. The Cobra Nub was super for the holiday and beyond. Limited (but not zero) sensations and no access. Two weeks in this doesn't even count. He needs at least four to get the effect. And the big cage (my name for it) is fun. Swelling up in there causes sensation and it drives him wild after a few days. The sad thing about this one (for Herbi) is that it's so easy to keep clean and so much fun for me that he doesn't need to be let out. Two weeks for him probably feels like an eternity but for me, it's just the beginning. And the big one it is. I've changed him over just before 7 weeks is up since his last come. He will be going crazy by Monday. I think I will see how long we can manage this big steel one for now. A month, Herbs?

Strict but fair makes him feel loved 👏🏻

Oh dear, it looks like Herbi's transition from Cobra to Steel isn't being very easy for him. I'd prefer it not to keep him awake at night, especially as it's waking him early in the morning as well. No doubt he'll settle into it before too long. Herbi won't be on here any more today. Technology curfew and all. He can do all his updates tomorrow. Maybe I'll offer him a little pause to the struggles with the middle-sized steel that is tormenting him. No plans today so how about a special deal since it's a long Bank Holiday weekend? I think I'll give him a whole day (today) with me wearing the fairy costume, in exchange for him swapping into the 2cm steel "naughty cage" for the week ahead. Perhaps I should start a poll to find out how many think he will go for it and how many think he'll turn it down. The naughty cage week won't count towards his next release. He'll still have to complete his time in the medium steel. It will just defer it, put it off for a week. I think that sounds fair. The technocurfew will mean that he doesn't read this until tomorrow at the earliest of course. Hehehe. Ok, I'm off to ask the question. I can be a fairy by 9am and that will give him 12+ hours to enjoy it. If he chooses that option of course...

No question he will take the deal. I don’t know who wouldn’t take it. Your beautifully evil. Hopefully you take that as a compliment.

Take the deal Herbi! I agree with Mr Tongue+Groove - you are beautifully evil! Herbi is a lucky man!

So Herbi bought himself a fairy for the day. Knock down price too. A week in the naughty cage and how squashed up in the 2cm it looks too. He'll have no room to grow in that one. Perhaps he'll even sleep better? Soon another month will be over and I'll still have only let him come twice. Twice in five months of 2025 so far. I think the average of 0.40 is something to be quite proud of. How nice to finish that fifth month off in the naughty cage!

That is indeed something to be proud of that the average is 0.4. Do you also notice the difference now that you let him come even less in his behavior? For us it works best for both of us that I don't come.

> waki86 wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 2:45 am > That is indeed something to be proud of that the average is 0.4. Do you also notice the difference now that you let him come even less in his behavior? > For us it works best for both of us that I don't come. Definitely notice the difference, especially with longer between coming. Once he gets to 6-8 weeks, it's like he's just settled somehow. That's what 2025 has been like with only allowing him to come twice. I think I like the 0.4 average!

Newbie to the forum here, but I have read through all of yours and your husband's journey posts (It took about 7 hours through the night, but I couldn't stop, and then had both open at the same time so I could compare how you both journalled on the same events). That has been some incredible journey for the two of you. Based on how "well" he is doing, it's quite scary that orgasms in late July and early November would give him an annual average of 0.33, and based on the gaps between orgasms so far this year (February and early May) those don't seem unreasonable (although he may not agree)

*@Nick0965* Thanks for posting. It made me smile that you had read the whole lot and it took 7 hours! I hope it was 7 hours well spent! I agree that 0.33 doesn't seem unreasonable with the way things are going at the moment. An average of 13 weeks between orgasms. There's no physical or practical reason that I can think of not to aim for that. As you say, Herbi might not be in total agreement. Hopefully you will be starting your own journal, if you haven't already?

> I hope it was 7 hours well spent! It was, but draining as well as enervating. I just couldn't stop reading on Saturday night / Sunday morning until I got to the end at 5am. Sunday day was hard work! > As you say, Herbi might not be in total agreement. I don't want him putting me on his Foe list > Hopefully you will be starting your own journal, if you haven't already? I have a Wordpress website which gets absolutely no traffic at all, consequently I sort of lost interest in it and then will update occasionally. I will have to do a number of posts to get from when I started to where I am now, so I can start going forwards. Thanks for the encouragement.

Our "trial year" ran from 1st April till 31st March. So now we're in "Chastity year 2" However, I've decided that I was over-complicating things and I'm doing away with "chastity years" Instead I'm going to measure averages solely on calendar years. As Herbi appreciates, I'm proud of our stats. They are now nice and simple: **2025** Orgasms: 2 Average per month: 0.40 Not only proud of the average but I think 0.40 is about right too. It's nice.

@KnownAsHerbert is averaging about 50 days between his orgasms. From Dec 27, 2024 to Feb 14, 2025 = 49 days Feb 14, 2025 to Apr 6, 2025 = 51 days. The average sits at 50 days. This results in 7 orgasms for him this year (he is a bit overdue by the way...) leading to an annual score of 0.58. To lower that score down to 0.4, he needs to lengthen the interval between releases, stretching it out to roughly 90 days over the course of the year. This means his upcoming orgasms for the remainder of the year should land on or around July 5th, October 3rd, and December 31st to reach that 0.42 target.

> Nick0965 wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 6:04 am > @KnownAsHerbert is averaging about 50 days between his orgasms. > From Dec 27, 2024 to Feb 14, 2025 = 49 days > Feb 14, 2025 to Apr 6, 2025 = 51 days. > The average sits at 50 days. > This results in 7 orgasms for him this year (he is a bit overdue by the way...) leading to an annual score of 0.58. > To lower that score down to 0.4, he needs to lengthen the interval between releases, stretching it out to roughly 90 days over the course of the year. > This means his upcoming orgasms for the remainder of the year should land on or around July 5th, October 3rd, and December 31st to reach that 0.42 target. Your careful attention to detail and precision match Emmie's own style perfectly, and I am sure she will be impressed. I had hoped for an average score closer to 1.00 (without going over it, of course, since exceeding it would just be silly). However, a result of 0.42 does sound rather low.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 7:34 am > Your careful attention to detail and precision match Emmie's own style perfectly, and I am sure she will be impressed. > I had hoped for an average score closer to 1.00 (without going over it, of course, since exceeding it would just be silly). > However, a result of 0.42 does sound rather low. My apologies; the data reflects "what I do" and my love for statistics...

> . My apologies; the data reflects "what I do" and my love for statistics... Sorry to jump in here. As a retired math teacher, I just couldn’t resist. Every time I started a new stats class, I would begin with my motto: “liars figure and figures lie”. One of the projects I assigned involved students analyzing data used in advertising. Recently, I had a discussion with a representative from my electric cooperative regarding their decision to raise meter base fees while keeping the price per kilowatt down. I asked him if he believed everyone was that gullible. It sparked quite a debate because he simply did not grasp the difference in impact on low-end users versus high-end users. Thanks, I will step back now.

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 11:58 am > Thanks, I will step back now. I don't think Mrs. G will let you off that easily:D

> Nick0965 wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 6:04 am > This means his upcoming orgasms for the remainder of the year should land on or around July 5th, October 3rd, and December 31st to reach that 0.42 target. Data and stats are cool, aren't they? I love how you have mapped out Herbi's future releases in your final paragraph. I think July 5th is a reasonable date for his next release as well. That will mark 13 weeks since he last blew.

Herbi was allowed a change of cage, plus a relaxing hot bath and an edge last night. I think it is my turn for some pleasure this evening. He can give me a hot bath now, dry me off, massage and cuddle me. Later on, he can make me come once or twice before we settle down to sleep. Maybe three times would be nice. He is still adjusting to the Cobra but hopefully he will sleep better tonight and wake up refreshed and ready for duty in the morning.

So today is June 1st, which means five full months of 2025 have flown by and I have only let Herbi cum twice. So 0.40 is officially recognized. Yay! There were a lot of messages yesterday. Herbs won't be on here much today as I have other things for him to do. He has been very patient and obedient, never quite knowing what to expect. He has taken everything one day at a time and done very well. Besides being the first day of a new month, today also marks 8 weeks since his last orgasm. I don't mind sharing my plan with him now. I may dive back into secrecy next time but for now, I am planning on another month. Let's make June an orgasm-free month for Herbi. Let's aim for his longest period of denial to date: 13 weeks, a quarter of a year, or 91 days however you want to express it. As we enter July, his average will drop to 0.33, which is a record achievement. Fourteen months down the line and doing so well. Hopefully, I am going to visit my parents next weekend so Miss Vikki will be in charge again. Herbi will be back in the 38 by then so he can enjoy a bit more room while I'm away. He can have a lovely weekend with room to grow but no chance of relief. Horny, frustrated, alone, and no masturbation. How does that sound, Herbs? There, Herbi. Now you know my plans. Is it better knowing the plan, or being kept in the dark until things happen?

We're heading off for an early night. Some might say it's more like a late afternoon (8pm) but we're both quite love-struck for some reason. Just want to settle down and snuggle up.

Yesterday evening was relaxed and successful with my friend Vikki in attendance. She enjoyed the company and the meal. She stepped in to look after Herbi's chastity needs, supervised his bathtime, oversaw the new cage fitting, and carried out the spanking. She always likes evenings spent with us but being more involved was a new step for her this time. She did very well. Herbi is wearing a 38 and has written about his poor night's sleep. It will take him 2-3 days to settle in this cage. It always does after a changeover. Maybe he won't be quite as settled in this one because it's more difficult to ignore. It arouses and teases even when there is nothing else to arouse or tease. And once aroused, this one keeps him hard longer too. By the time he has fully adjusted though, I'll be off to see my parents and he will have a quiet weekend to himself. Vikki will do a fine job as deputy kh I'm sure. Herbi seems to have described last night's deed as "ghastly". Really, Herbs? As bad as that? That word has been noted. Vikki and I enjoyed the evening anyway. Herbs squirmed a bit but handled it all really well in my opinion.

Miss. Emmi, (emphasis on the Miss; I don’t need you showing up at my house) As beautifully wicked as you are, I think that "ghastly" is quite appropriate for Herbi to use. I know my opinion doesn’t matter here but we men can be very fragile at times. Have a safe trip and tell your folks hello for me.

Aww, sounds like Herbs has settled in nice and quick with the steel of the 38. Message from him at work: "All fine. No problems with the 38. Tight but fine."

I'll be setting off in a little while, probably around 2pm, to see my parents for the weekend. I've left Vikki as deputy kh just in case of emergencies, of course. Herbi was very kind and attentive this morning, giving me something pleasant to remember while I'm away and to look forward to when I get back on Monday. He has gone off to work now. I'll be gone before he arrives home. I did consider changing him to the other 2cm (not the naughty cage) for a while I am away but decided not to. He will get more reminders in the 38. And I will phone him this evening to let him know how things are going. I expect Vikki will send him texts to check up on him too. She did before. In fact, he had to give regular reports so she knew all was well. Looking forward to seeing my folks obviously. The weekend will speed past I'm sure.

I was a bit late getting home and feeling rather tired. It is only a 2-hour drive but it isn't a nice drive; I don’t really like the M25 motorway. Tired, but not sleepy. I needed to unwind from the journey and feel relaxed first. I got a lovely greeting: Hug, kiss, cuddle. He helped me with my bags. We sat down and cuddled again. I said "Strip" and he did. I needed a shower; that would help freshen me up and relax me. While I was in there, Herbi made me a hot chocolate drink. I didn’t need to eat. Mum had packed me a picnic for the journey and I'd eaten some of it when I stopped for a break. I hadn't finished it all because one of mum's picnics will last an average person 2 or 3 days. Came out of the shower, wrapped a towel around me, and went into the bedroom where Herbi and my hot drink were waiting. I enjoyed sitting on the bed, propped up drinking and talking about what I had done during my weekend while hearing about his. I see he has given an overview of my weekend already so I won't repeat it. Gradually I became more relaxed, put the journey out of mind, began to relax a bit more. Ready for a bean or two. Me: Are you going to make me feel glad that I came home? Herbs: Of course. He went to work, giving me a kiss on the mouth, then my neck and nipples, working his way down. I started to feel glad that I had come home. After two beans later, I was feeling totally unwound and sleepy. Herbi remained locked. He was hard but never once mentioned the cage or his status within it. We cuddled up, spooning, with his hand around my body fondling a breast. I don't remember slipping off into a deep sleep but I must have done exactly that. On my own today. He has gone to work. I have unpacking, laundry, shops, and plenty of other things to get done. There is no Vikki this evening so we can just have a nice quiet evening indoors together.

Herbi obviously hadn't read my previous post on here from earlier today. I had said that Vikki wouldn't be coming round this evening. So he got home, went upstairs for his routine shower, and came back downstairs without clothes, in case our Tuesday guest turned up. I didn’t let on of course. There was no need for him to be dressed anyway. So he has spent the evening nicely naked. Because of the techno curfew, he still hasn't read that I had known all along it was going to be just the two of us this evening. He appears to be enjoying the 38 anyway. And it is less than 4 weeks until he can come now too. Not too long to wait.

Isn't it lovely that Herbi says it feels much better? He has slept well and even suggested that perhaps he is getting used to the big cage, or more relaxed now I am home. Such a nice post in his journal. I'm also pleased to read that he has accepted not getting unlocked until July. That's good news because he isn't getting unlocked (apart from routine hygiene and edging) until July. No need, you see? We are still on track for four orgasms during 2025. How good is that? What an achievement. I wasn't even aiming for 0.33 as an average but it looks like we might have settled on it quite naturally and it suits me very nicely in fact. It has been a good year so far.

It has been a while. I haven't been feeling at my best. Very pleased to be over the stomach upset and the regular event that interrupts proceedings. Feeling in tip-top condition now, back to full health. Just tired. Also pleased that I made the effort yesterday to get so much done and ready for the holiday. It means we have a more relaxed day today. I got plenty of pampering last night: bath, dried off, cuddles and back rub, more cuddles and tongue work, and then (as has become rather usual procedure these days) I cuddled off to sleep. I know it takes Herbi a while to get to sleep but he has been so good about it recently. No complaining or anything. We are all set for a very peaceful week anyway. Leaving the warm, dry, sunny weather and heading North into rain by the look of the forecast. But once indoors at our accommodation it will be cosy and lovely. Can't wait to get there. Herbs is wearing the Cobra for the drive. Once there, I think the 38 will be more interesting for him. He has done so well over the last 12 weeks with only one more week (and a bit) left to go. After the holiday he'll have his unlocking to look forward to, as long as he continues to behave of course. And as long as I don't offer him anything else in return for an extra week or two. We will see.

> . with only one more week (and a bit) left to go. And how long is a “bit”? You are a mysterious woman, Miss Emmie. > And as long as I don't offer him anything else in return for an extra week or two. We will see. Yes, a mysterious woman. One who knows her man’s weaknesses. Enjoy your holiday.

> . with only one more week (and a bit) left to go. And just how long counts as “a bit”? You remain an enigma, Miss Emmie. > And as long as I don't offer him anything else in return for an extra week or two. We will see. Indeed, a mysterious woman. One who understands her man’s weak spots. Have a wonderful holiday.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:45 am > I find out more about what's going to happen on here than in any other way. There is so much we **could** share, but it might give *@KHEmmi* inspiration, so perhaps best to stay quiet...

I can hardly believe how quickly time has passed and we are almost at the end of our wonderful holiday. It has been absolutely delightful waking up to such open space, sky, grass, mountains, lochs, and sea. Everything is so quiet here. I think I made the right choice for Herbi by picking the 38 as well. He seems to be enjoying it. You can tell by how often he gets reminders and how thoroughly he’s been filling up in his cage. He will be changed before we head back home. Don’t want him getting too distracted while driving, after all. He has also picked up a new command during our stay here. “Down” It means, “go down and give me an O”, which is similar to kneeling but he doesn't have to kneel, and I don't need to be standing. It’s much easier just lying back and letting him get on with it. In fact, sometimes I haven’t even needed to say the word. I can simply lie on the bed and he knows what to do. How wonderful is that? I know his week has been a bit frustrating, but without any pressures or stress, and no need to rise early for work especially, why not enjoy it? It really has been a great week.

I haven’t added much to this thread for a while. I tried once or twice but found the site was down. Anyway... The holiday feels like distant history now, and we are settled back into our normal routine in the heat again. Herbs seems happy with his 14-week achievement (if memory serves!). I can tell by how well he’s filling the Cobra this morning, hehehe. I am pleased with it too. It sets a record, and someone pointed out that he is approaching 100 days. In fact, Tuesday will mark exactly 100 days. Can't just unlock him for fun without hitting ***that*** milestone. Also, Tuesday is when Vikki will be visiting us. Not that this necessarily ties into the 100-day count or changes anything specific about it. We'll wait and see what happens. Herbs has been mentioning things more frequently lately; not complaining exactly, but he noted how often his cage state has changed recently. At least since we returned from holiday. So I told him that after his next “fun” session—his next “O,” in other words—we’ll do something like 8 weeks in the Cobra. Uninterrupted, with no changes to the lock. Maybe even 10 weeks. Would he prefer that? He hasn't brought it up again so I’m not sure. I plan to make the most of today. Get some sun but be sensible: avoid the hottest part of the day and sit quietly in a shady spot with something cool to drink. Herbi deserves some relaxation too. After receiving his beans and having sun cream applied, he can enjoy the sunshine if he wishes. It is indeed a hard life.

You are delightfully cruel! It’s always such a pleasure reading your journal, Miss Emmie!

> Chosen_Jackal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:45 am > You are so delightfully cruel! > Always a joy reading your journal Miss Emmie! Cruel??

> . It’s a hard life. A hard life is a good life. Certainly beats living softly.

I didn’t set out with 100 days as a target, but it’s been nice to hit it regardless. Everything feels so settled lately. Four cages now and the average has dropped below 0.5 which is good news. Enjoying this new way of life.

Congratulations to both of you on reaching 100! 🎉

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:03 am > Four cages and the average below 0.5 now which is good. Given that most men likely ejaculate daily, and we are on day 196 of this year, *@KnownAsHerbert* actually sits at an average of just 0.0102.

> Nick0965 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:51 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:03 am > > Four cages and the average below 0.5 now which is good. > Based on the fact that, very probably, most men ejaculate on a daily basis, and we're now on day 196 of this year, @KnownAsHerbert is actually on an average of 0.0102 It looks much worse when you put it like that. It makes Miss Emmie's "orgasms per month" figures seem almost generous by comparison! With only 2 orgasms in the last 6 months, her rate is 0.33, so I’ll have to wait and see what happens once July ends. Hoping for a ratio of “3 in 7” (0.43).

> Curiousrk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:33 pm > Congratulations to both of you on 100! 🎉 I can't believe it’s really been over 100 days, but the calendar doesn’t lie. or Miss Emmie's dedication either.

Ah, it’s lovely to have a day where nothing really needs doing. No plans. No pressures. And the weather is cool, maybe even rainy later. Definitely no heatwave coming in. I think this might be an ideal day for me to become a fairy for once. Unless Herbs decides otherwise... 100+ days already? Who would have thought it?

Herbi is coping well with the naughty cage so I think a couple more nights in there. That will bring us close to 16 weeks total. But he agreed to two extra weeks for the fairy treatment, so there’s still one more week left after that. Then it’ll be back to the 38, which he loves naturally. Wow. That means 17 weeks between any unlocks!

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:16 am > Herbi's having no trouble with the naughty cage so a couple more nights I think. > That will bring us close to 16 weeks. > But he agreed to two weeks for the fairy treat so there's still another week to go. > That will have to be back to the 38, which he loves of course. > Wow. 17 weeks between getting any! Is this how Herbi discovers your plans?

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:50 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:16 am > > Herbi's having no trouble with the naughty cage so a couple more nights I think. > > That will bring us close to 16 weeks. > > But he agreed to two weeks for the fairy treat so there's still another week to go. > > That will have to be back to the 38, which he loves of course. > > Wow. 17 weeks between getting any! > And this is how herbi finds out your plans? Not really. He already knew about the extra two weeks and agreed in exchange for the fairy day. He also knows that since commenting on frequent cage changes, after his next big "O" he’ll get a longer stretch without change. I’ve already mentioned 8 weeks in the Cobra as a possibility. I might stick with that plan. Or maybe change it up. He’s never done 8 weeks straight in one cage before. But he should manage fine in the Cobra.

> . I might stick to that. > Or change it. Sounds very much like how Mrs. G makes plans—she doesn’t really plan; everything depends on her feelings in the moment.

[ Sounds very much like how Mrs. G makes plans—she doesn’t really plan; everything depends on her feelings in the moment. [/quote] The same for my Lady J.

The naughty cage was a good change of pace. It made things different for Herbs. He handled it well. Now we are in the final week, returning to the 38, which he calls "the big one." By next weekend, that will make 17 weeks total. A record by quite some margin. He has done very well. The coming weekend should be interesting and fun. But for now, he just needs to behave and wait. Now, where are my beans?

I have to say, I am really enjoying this week! Herbi is going all out to be good and keep me happy. I don’t even need to ask for beans anymore. The 38 has been a good choice these last few days. He’s been so hard every morning and throughout the day too. Never seen him so erect in any cage before. And the 38 drives him wild as well. So, it was definitely a good choice. It makes me want to try an extended period in his 'big cage' someday. Stay hard, Herbs. I love keeping you this horny all the time. Only two more nights left!

Dear *@KHEmmi*, Are you alright? It has been four weeks since your last post in the journal. We know from what Herb said that you were unwell, but we are all missing out on seeing your perspective of events at home. Has Miss Vikki visited recently? What do you think about the events of August 3rd? How did Herbi cope with the drop? And so on...

I’m back! I hadn’t realized how much time had passed since my last post. Things have been busy. I’ve made two trips to see my parents, plus helped out by looking after—or at least checking on—Herbi’s parents too. Lots is going on here. And time has just slipped away. Perhaps we are so settled into the chastity routine that it has simply become... routine! Since he was locked for 8 weeks, I haven’t even needed to bring out the fairy costume. But it’s there waiting if needed as a little incentive for him. I know he is settling into this lifestyle well, but I also know it isn't always easy for him. He has only been allowed three ejaculations so far this year and doesn’t yet know if another one is coming. It must be difficult, don't you think gents? He wrote about the small steel cage recently and seems to have realized he will stay in that during Locktober—five weeks total. Maybe those five weeks will bring him to his next release? It would fit perfectly: 5 weeks: E-I-E-I-O! I must get on, but I’ll be back soon. Try to provide updates a bit more frequently from now on.

I start dripping in my cage within the first month. This is what I’ve managed so far, but my wife plans to extend this to at least 3 months next year. Four times a year it gets HARD on him; he’s holding on tight, I’m sure! He will have four orgasms this year. My suggestion would be to release him by November and aim for two more orgasms in 2026—splitting them between late 2025 and early 2026. This means one orgasm by May 2026 and another in November/December 2026. Then we can push for just one per year starting in 2027. Please keep us posted!:)

> camundongoo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:24 pm > push to two orgasms by year in 2026, half from 2025... This would mean an orgasm by may 2026 and other in november/december 2026. Then push 1 per year in 2027. Harsh! Poor Herbie; I think he finds four a year enough already.

Welcome back KHEmmi. Hope you and Herbi’s parents are doing well.

> ARK wrote: ↑Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:40 am > Welcome back KHEmmi. Hope your and Hebbi parents are doing well. Thanks ARK. The parents are all good, thank you. Herbs is doing well too; it’s great how settled we have become. I never dreamed at the start that we would go this long between unlocking. But it looks like four releases for the year might be possible. Even five or six would count as success. The average below 1.0 has been smashed. Herbs is a reliable bean provider! He’s also very well behaved these days. I even believe we will make those 5 weeks in the 2cm this time. Then we shall see.

It’s nice to read Herbi’s journal and find he is so settled in the 2cm. I am confident that these 5 weeks will be a success! Could even push it to 6 or 7... But perhaps changing cages would feel better. He might enjoy having a little more room for a change of scenery. We’ll see next weekend when Locktober ends. For now, the occasional edge is well appreciated and the bean supply remains reliable and plentiful so I have no complaints. Speaking of beans...

I’ve just finished reading your entire journal. WELL DONE! When Miss Vikki was introduced I had to hop over to Herbi’s journal to catch up on all the details while you were away. What great fun! I’m happy for you that you have a friend so close by. And pleased to see Herbi pushing his comfort levels.:twisted: Now moving on to read through all of Herbi’s journal to understand what it is like on ‘the other side of the key’!

> Buckaroo 2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:55 pm > I’ve just finished reading your entire journal. WELL DONE! Well done to you too. It must have taken some time to read it all. Glad you enjoyed it. I hope it was useful as well.

Just thinking to myself that this coming weekend will mark 13 weeks since Herbi’s last big "O", and he is due out of the 2cm. But 13 is an unlucky number, isn't it? To be on the safe side, maybe taking another week would be wise. Don’t you think? It could even involve a different cage; it doesn’t have to necessarily be the 2cm thingie again. Let me know your thoughts!

I’m thinking you know exactly what you’re doing. Judging by Herbie’s own journal he seems to be thriving under your guidance. If you believe one more week is needed then I don’t see how anyone could question your judgement. Fascinating read as always, Miss Emmie.

> Since you asked. I will agree with C_J that you are in control and doing a fine job maintaining your position. However, Herbi could probably use some attention after performing so well. When he reaches 14 weeks he will have accumulated two sevens (7+7). With seven being the number it is, and you being quite numbers-oriented, perhaps you could play on that theme. Maybe allow him 2 minutes of free time per day for seven days. Or give him 14 strokes on the final day of his 14 weeks; if he doesn’t O then try giving him 21 strokes in another 7-week period afterward. Then there’s always dice rolls if you can't think of anything else. Perhaps the chastity fairy or Miss Vikki has some ideas as well. I’m sure you will do fine. We all look forward to hearing what your decision is.

I'm not superstitious at all. 13 is perfectly fine.

> KnownAsHerbert wrote: ↑Tue Oct 28, 2025 6:02 am > I'm not superstitious. 13 is fine. Good point made. And she did ask for our input.

It’s not just the number 13 we need to consider; remember it is also Halloween so unlocking might be doubly unlucky. On the other hand, he has been good and done well. Whatever happens over the weekend, I am sure he will remain happy and grateful.

> Maybe Herbi could attend a Halloween party, escorted by the chastity fairy.

While there is still well over a month left in the year, it already feels like 2025 has been a success! Positives Proved that an average of 0.25 is possible. Decided that the 38 cage suits him best. Got Herbi to accept this as his new normal routine. Lost count of how many beans have been donated. Negatives Can’t think of any!

> Awww, poor herbs locked away in the naughty cage. I know he hasn’t actually been naughty. It’s just to remind him what it feels like inside the smallest cage for a little while. Having a nice leisurely breakfast in bed is lovely. It is also delightful feeling his bean delivery mechanism (aka his tongue) doing exactly what it should—licking me until I reach orgasm. So Herbs has settled into the naughty cage, but I know he truly wants out or at least a change of scenery. That’s why I just offered him a big O all to himself. Obviously this would push his average up slightly, but it would still stay below 0.5 for the whole year. I can live with that result. Strangely enough, he turned me down. His preference is actually waiting for a visit from the chastity fairy instead. Time for me to dress up for the day, I guess. He had his chance and declined. We’ll restart his week in the naughty cage starting late today, I think. And his average will remain at 0.25 for the year. Locked until January at the earliest. But I am worth it!

It is encouraging to see that my caged man continues to share updates and remains accepting of his reality with a realistic outlook. This morning he mentioned being ready for a change from the naughty cage, though it seems unlikely before the weekend arrives. He isn't sure if Miss Vikki will visit later today, but honestly, he doesn't need to worry about that. The important thing is that he stays prepared just in case. Like him admitting openly how settled and comfortable he feels while confined, aroused yet denied and frustrated. Everything sounds right so far. There are still a few weeks remaining in 2025, but I am already mentally wrapping up the year for us. It has been successful. With four orgasms over twelve months, that gives an average of 0.33 per month. I have proven it works effectively. What about next year? Yes, I am already considering it. My only rule so far is 'once a month is more than enough,' echoing one of Mr. Pickle's cartoons. This essentially caps him at eleven in the year. Obviously he doesn't require that many. I will ponder this over the coming weeks. Be good everyone (especially you caged males). Stay hard and frustrated like Herbi.

He is really catching on, isn't he? Herbi has written about the possibility of being unlocked one last time in the final days of December but admits he might be 'optimistic.' He accepts that January will see him locked up. He understands his average must always stay under one. He recognizes he might remain in the Cobra Nub for a while now. And best of all, he says he 'won't ask, he'll just wait'. That is exactly the idea, Herbi. Well done! I enjoyed reading how he reacts to switching from the 'big steel' back to the Cobra, shifting one type of frustration for another (the deep vacuum of space). After only a day, he was already wanting to change again. He also accepts that perhaps he simply hasn't settled in yet. I knew he would want another change but even I am surprised by how soon it happened. Never mind though. There is plenty of time for him to settle down. No worries there! Enjoy the Nub. Frustration is good, no matter which kind.

Happy with my plan for 2026. There are just three things to remember. 1) Months with 31 days are E-I-E-I months 2) Months with less than 31 days can be O months 3) The average must always remain below 1.0 So both (1) and (3) immediately rule out January for Herbi. And February allows a maximum of one O to avoid breaking rule (3). Other than that, all he needs to do is behave well, stay patient, and keep supplying the beans. So far so good.

One down for 2026 then and it is great to see him back in steel after seven weeks in the Cobra. He seems to be enjoying it as well. Waking up hard every morning. Feeling a lot of pressure. I think seven weeks is a pleasant amount of time between O's and changes. Herbs can handle seven weeks quite well too. Longer if necessary, hehe! The next O might come in April. With the big steel, there may be less need to unlock at all. It is easy to keep clean. Seven weeks as an average means about 7x O per year. That cannot be bad. Definitely more than last year anyway! I can always reduce it if there is a shortage of beans...

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 25, 2026 3:53 am > Seven weeks as an average means about seven times O in the year. > Can't be bad. Although of course there are only five months a year with less than 31 days, so Herbs shouldn't get his hopes up too much or too early!

> Nick0965 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 26, 2026 10:28 am > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 25, 2026 3:53 am > > Seven weeks as an average means about seven times O in the year. > > Can't be bad. > Although of course there are only five months a year with less than 31 days, so Herbs shouldn't get his hopes up too much or too early! You are right on both counts: the number of months and his expectations. But... There is nothing in my rules that prevents him from having more than one O in any of those five months. As long as a second or even third O in a single month doesn't push the average up to 1.0 or higher.

Waiting for my breakfast which Herbi is cooking right now. I do enjoy a bed-breakfast on weekends. I hope he remembers the beans. He woke up straining against the bars this morning. The 1st of March, and March has 31 days, doesn't it? Pity! No rush to get up today. Nothing urgent needing attention. No plans.

Miss KHEmmi, Thank you for your post on Feb 28. I appreciate it as it helps a lot. Good days to both of you. paz-

So Herbi is having a tough time at the moment. I guess he has gotten over the drop and past that three-week mark. And back to being horny and frustrated again. But he did seven weeks (I think?) in the Cobra, so another seven or eight in the big steel should be okay, although he claims it feels worse because he senses more pressure. One would think feeling something is nicer than the nothingness of the Cobra. You can't please everyone, right? We are well into a nice little routine these days now. Edges and inspections, regular cleanup, and the occasional O. The Old MacDonald pattern works well and it is all fun. I think we have found a good balance between waiting and coming. Once a month really is more than enough. Well satisfied. He can wait longer if he doesn't keep me so close. And he knows that.

Wondering whether Herbi would enjoy a fairy costume weekend. Perhaps tomorrow or Sunday.......

> KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 5:07 pm > Wondering whether Herbi would enjoy a fairy costume weekend. > Perhaps tomorrow or Sunday....... After all, he does seem very patient with his situation. Surely some eye candy will do wonders for his spirits.

> Tongue+groove wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 7:31 pm > > KHEmmi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2026 5:07 pm > > Wondering whether Herbi would enjoy a fairy costume weekend. > > Perhaps tomorrow or Sunday....... > After all, he does seem very patient with his situation. Surely some eye candy will do wonders for his spirits. Patient, yes. I think a day in the fairy costume in exchange for a week in the 2.0cm steel is a fair trade. The week in the 2.0cm won't count toward his total time between releases of course, Hehehe.

I realize I have given away two positives. One was the day with the fairy. Herbi definitely saw that as a treat. A positive outcome. The second was supposed to be payment for the day with the chastity fairy but it feels more like a holiday from the big steel to him. It is a week that 'doesn't count' toward his locked-up time, and even so, it provides a break from the 3.8cm. Maybe it should have been a week in the naughty cage instead. Oh well. He is fine and seems happy in the little 2cm. Ready for the next change already but he will have to wait. He keeps me content anyway. He will get an 'O' in April, and I need to decide which one he wears until June... 1) naughty 2) 2cm steel 3) Cobra nub 4) 3.8cm steel (again!) If anyone offers a vote, I will take that into consideration. I wonder whether he should be allowed to vote?