Verifying CB Series Devices

I came across a list that helps identify whether the new CB series device you’re purchasing is genuine or not. I thought it would be useful to share. • Genuine products do not come in velvet bags (for models like the CB-2000 and CB-3000). • The authentic CB-3000 and Curve models don’t arrive in a hinged box with custom-molded spaces for each component. • The “Cbelt-3000” is a counterfeit version of the CB-3000. • The CB-4000 mimics the Curve model but is itself a copycat product. • The real CB-3000 comes exclusively in black and clear. (A neon red option existed previously but was discontinued back in summer 2007.) Any other color indicates it’s not genuine. • The Curve unit is only available in clear; any deviation means it’s a fake. • There are known replicas made in China of the CB-6000 that have entered the market. Another point mentioned is that authorized dealers commit to selling devices at a minimum price. They cannot undercut this amount unless the item has been discontinued. So, watch out for significantly lower prices as an indicator of counterfeits. The only thing I verified was the velvet bag on my CB-3000. About a month after receiving it, the halves began to separate and needed full regluing. It is indeed a lovely bag with its embroidered “CB-3000” letters.

So what if it's counterfeit? If the price is low enough, just purchase it. First off, we need to define 'what counts as a fake.' Then you must distinguish between high-quality fakes and poor ones. Take Nike in China: when a factory closes down, another crew often steps in to continue production. These shoes flood the Chinese market at low costs. Since they don't cost $100, people assume they are inferior copies? When I was there, you could grab CB units for nearly the price of plastic—around $5 each. If you secured a good fake, you were set, which most turned out to be because sellers on (and eBay) want to avoid negative feedback. There's a strong possibility that these decent fakes come from the same factory or use identical molds in different facilities. We are discussing injection-molded acrylic, not an automobile engine. As for the inferior copies, they simply miss out on the quality control steps applied to the better ones. The parts might not align perfectly, there could be bumps in the rings or pits in the plastic material, but they still function as intended. I have a whole box of these lower-quality fakes and I won't sell them unless buyers understand it's a fake and that its quality isn't quite on par with the good ones. Still, I'd offer them for $30 each to cover import costs. When you consider spending $30 on a disposable unit meant for trial before committing to something else, that represents value. As for the genuine 2000s and 3000s, they can indeed arrive in boxes if you choose, though you usually buy the box separately. The 6000 comes in a bag, I believe (if my memory serves). None of these items bear the label "cbelt-3000"; that reference likely points to an eBay listing. The CB4000 is how one finds the Curve model on Taobao—worth looking into. The Red CB3000 is excellent, as are the blue and green versions, which boast superb quality. Regardless of brand claims, genuine CB600s tend to split. Some might not, but give it a squeeze eventually, and splitting becomes inevitable. This two-piece acrylic unit places significant pressure on its top ridge; naturally, it will crack over time. It wasn't joined with JB Weld adhesive; rather, it was constructed in the most cost-effective way possible so the company maximizes profit while potentially shortchanging customers.

> member_29036349c2 wrote:So what if it's counterfeit? If the price is low enough, just purchase it. > First off, we need to define 'what counts as a fake.' > Then you must distinguish between high-quality fakes and poor ones. Rather than using "fake," let us use the term "legitimate." Legitimate devices are those licensed and approved by the rightful patent or copyright holders. What you support is purchasing what we commonly call "knockoffs"—copies (whether good, bad, or otherwise) of the legal product. One could even describe this practice as a form of intellectual property theft. > I have a whole box of these lower-quality fakes and I won't sell them unless buyers understand it's a fake and that its quality isn't quite on par with the good ones. Still, I'd offer them for $30 each to cover import costs. When you consider spending $30 on a disposable unit meant for trial before committing to something else, that represents value. It is certainly a bargain... or rather, a steal. However, this also discourages manufacturers and developers from investing in improvements and new devices. Why invest money into development if unscrupulous copycats simply replicate the product and sell it cheaply? > It wasn't joined with JB Weld adhesive; rather, it was constructed in the most cost-effective way possible so the company maximizes profit while potentially shortchanging customers. Indeed, those shrewd manufacturers are always looking to maximize their gains at the consumer's expense.

> member_29036349c2 wrote:So what if it's counterfeit? If the price is low enough, just purchase it. > First off, we need to define 'what counts as a fake.' Then you must distinguish between high-quality fakes and poor ones. Once you bring it home, do you then return with complaints saying, "This one is defective; give me another or my money back?" Let us know how that situation plays out. > member_29036349c2 wrote:As for the inferior copies, they simply miss out on the quality control steps applied to the better ones. The parts might not align perfectly, there could be bumps in the rings or pits in the plastic material, but they still function as intended. > I have a whole box of these lower-quality fakes and I won't sell them unless buyers understand it's a fake and that its quality isn't quite on par with the good ones. Still, I'd offer them for $30 each to cover import costs. When you consider spending $30 on a disposable unit meant for trial before committing to something else, that represents value. Did you buy these fakes merely to store in a box? If a newcomer trying chastity for the first time receives one that doesn't fit together properly, they might be discouraged from continuing use. If there are bubbles or *bobbles* (bulges) in the ring making it look imperfect, it may deter them from purchasing another unit. If pits cause irritation, I am sure this would discourage repeat purchases of CB series products. > member_29036349c2 wrote: > Regardless of brand claims, genuine CB600s tend to split. Some might not, but give it a squeeze eventually, and splitting becomes inevitable. This two-piece acrylic unit places significant pressure on its top ridge; naturally, it will crack over time. It wasn't joined with JB Weld adhesive; rather, it was constructed in the most cost-effective way possible so the company maximizes profit while potentially shortchanging customers. I do not deny that CB units can split. What I wager is that fakes won't provide you a one-year warranty covering such splits. I only realized this when Kept For Her confirmed they honor the ***manufacturer's warranty*** of 1 year for devices purchased directly from them, implying those are originals. Initially, my point was that if the price seems too good to be true, the product quality might suffer accordingly. A newcomer wouldn't necessarily know what is correct or incorrect. When I was new myself, I wasn't aware of how to tell the difference. Upon buying my CB3000, the vendor assured me it came in a black velvet bag. Had I possessed that list for determining authenticity beforehand, I would have paid the extra $45 for a genuine unit instead. As noted before, I did end up with a nice velvet bag. Also, agreeing entirely with Tom Allen's comment.

> member_381064b05f wrote:It also discourages manufacturers and developers from investing in improvements and new devices. Why put money into development if unscrupulous copycats simply replicate the product and sell it cheaply? Exactly. Furthermore, let us not forget that we are discussing securing a device with potentially *very sharp edges* onto a sensitive, tender body part—and for many of us, a valuable one too. Is saving a few dollars truly worth risking comfort or damage there?

I simply grow weary of this same debate occurring in various other groups. I find it remarkable that most people justify what amounts to theft by claiming the original devices are priced too high.

Tom, I believe you are expending effort unnecessarily. Most consumers in the USA prioritize low prices and remain indifferent to manufacturing origins or whether domestic jobs were lost when production moved overseas. They do not care if a trademark item is effectively stolen, provided it costs less. I prefer avoiding political debates, but this trend will eventually weaken the USA—not within my lifetime, but inevitably. We no longer produce much of anything domestically.

> member_7f5b971d37 wrote:I believe you are expending effort unnecessarily. It may be falling on deaf ears, yet I do not think it is a waste of breath to voice this. It is somewhat frightening how easily some people rationalize their dishonest behavior. In other cases, they genuinely remain unaware that what they are doing constitutes dishonesty; such attitudes have become quite pervasive among certain groups. -A