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I’ve been mulling over the idea of blogging for a while. I wasn’t certain it was right for me because I have a habit of rambling and repeating myself. But I’m going ahead with it anyway. Some background for those interested: I’ve known my wife, now Madam, since we were children. We married about 12 years ago, initially establishing a dynamic where I took more of the top role. She seemed to enjoy being tied up by me; however, every time I finished securing her, I would untie her so we could have sex together. It never quite felt like a true “scene” back then. We had children which reduced our playtime significantly, and moving in with family further limited it, except for the rare moments when we carved out time just for ourselves. Eventually, we lost custody of the kids temporarily and moved away (so they could stay put), which returned our playtime to us (yay!). Around that period, I realized I had been playing the wrong role all along. I shifted into being a sub, though my wife didn’t immediately step up as Madam. After a couple of years and spending thousands of dollars on gear, we got our kids back plus welcomed another one. In recent years, she has started to fully embrace her role as Madam (she dislikes the term mistress). She began getting annoyed when I masturbated, even though I always emphasized that she was who I had in mind. Last year, I decided to purchase a CB device to ease Madam’s worries. We did our research carefully to find the best option for us. Madam favored the CB2k due to its openness, so we bought it. I tried wearing it before cutting the pins but found it too painful and the ring shape uncomfortable for me. In September, I sold it at a loss on eBay. As holidays approached, we discussed getting the CB6k because its pins point outward (much more logical) rather than inward, plus it features a wider ring and an opening on top for easier installation. I surprised her by gifting it to us during the holidays. Since then, I wear it most of the time. It does come off when she gets horny, which has been about 75% of the time since I started wearing it. Our sex life has improved immensely; I think she is interested more often than I am. More updates later, I have a meeting to get to.

Last night Madam was very horny and allowed me out so she could be pleased. This time, she actually removed the device herself instead of telling me to take it off like she did before. She mentioned that she was surprised by how effective the CB had been on her and is very glad we purchased it. I do need to put it back on shortly though. Madam didn't realize I hadn't reinserted it yet. she wasn't happy about that I get the feeling there will be a consequence for this oversight.

Last night I tried on a pair of heels she had bought for herself but couldn't walk in. We have discussed and played with heels before, but as usual, we both worry so much about what the other wants that we forget our own desires—and they might actually be the same thing. Madam got turned on by it along with some videos that appeared on my computer, but her head hurt more than usual so we went to bed. Once there, I started rereading the terms of the chastity contract I had printed out from here before signing it earlier. I went through them with her to ensure clarity for both of us. It is now signed by both parties. Things are definitely about to get more interesting.

Sounds like you're off to a great start. Wait until she has you service her without removing the chastity device. That's when real trouble begins. LOL

> maturemetal said: > Sounds like you're off to a great start. Wait until she has you service her without removing the chastity device. That's when real trouble begins. LOL > Click to expand... Like last night? she said she wanted to play. I started playing with her, and about midway through while she was teasing me, she asked, "You don't think you're getting out do you?" It was a genuine question, not just a statement, so my answer was, "It is up to you Madam." Needless to say, she orgasmed and I stayed locked. Madam mentioned that she already wants to redo the contract to add some new clauses.

This morning I told my boss that I wanted her to take me with a dildo. She said, "I guess that will be another week.":rules: We do not have a formal contract; she is the living embodiment of our agreement.

> maturemetal said: > This morning I told my boss that I wanted her to take me with a dildo. She said, "I guess that will be another week.":rules: > We do not have a formal contract; she is the living embodiment of our agreement. > Click to expand... We actually do have a contract since we are both quite skilled at spinning words. The written contract helps clear up any confusion. Today we went toy shopping locally and came away with a purple butt plug and some ankle support cuffs for her (her leg issues make it almost impossible for her to stay on top, but these should hopefully let her keep her legs elevated to increase her enjoyment). We also looked at several glass dildos (for her) and remote vibrating cockrings (for me). She wasn't sure which dildo she liked best yet, so she decided to think about it and go back another time to make a purchase. We did discuss getting a strap-on, but she said not *yet*.

My wife likes the rabbit vibrator. The cyber skins are good too. If she doesn't like using it on herself with the dildo, she can always use it on you. I got my wife one and it was larger than I expected; it is 8" long and 2" in diameter. It was a bit big for her alone, so since I made the mistake of buying it wrong size-wise, she didn't want to waste money returning it. Now she uses it on me. Ouch!:bj:

My Mistress loves the glass dildo with bumps along the shaft. When I use it on her, I employ a twisting thrust motion which works every time.

> chastityslavejohn said: > My Mistress loves the glass dildo with bumps along the shaft. When I use it on her, I employ a twisting thrust motion which works every time. > Click to expand... You mean like this one: That is the model Madam looked at first. I think she is also considering the version with swirls. She just isn't sure yet which one will bring her more pleasure.

> maturemetal said: > My wife likes the rabbit vibrator. The cyber skins are good too. If she doesn't like using it on herself with the dildo, she can always use it on you. I got my wife one and it was larger than I expected; it is 8" long and 2" in diameter. It was a bit big for her alone, so since I made the mistake of buying it wrong size-wise, she didn't want to waste money returning it. Now she uses it on me. Ouch!:bj: > Click to expand... Now you know why I had her go shopping with me.;-)

> sub4madam said: > We actually do have a contract since we are both quite skilled at spinning words. The written contract helps clear up any confusion. > Today we went toy shopping locally and came away with a purple butt plug and some ankle support cuffs for her (her leg issues make it almost impossible for her to stay on top, but these should hopefully let her keep her legs elevated to increase her enjoyment) > We also looked at several glass dildos (for her) and remote vibrating cockrings (for me). She wasn't sure which dildo she liked best yet, so she decided to think about it and go back another time to make a purchase. > We did discuss getting a strap-on, but she said not *yet* > Click to expand... The ankle support cuffs didn't work for us after all, though now we plan on removing the connecting link to use them on me instead.

Yesterday we did a little more shopping. This time we picked up the Tantus gag, a strap-on harness and dildo set. We shall see how soon these are put to use. Madam made sure to tell the young lady at the store that the gag is specifically meant to shut me up. It was funny because when Madam asked where the gags were, she thought we meant party favors rather than:bondage: toys.

Well today we used the strap-on on both of us (sterilized in between). It didn't do much for me personally (it's too small), but Madam LOVED it; she seemed to enjoy receiving it more than enjoying giving.:sulk: We had a short discussion about me staying locked up permanently while only using the strap-on device. She liked the idea but mentioned that cost is currently an issue.

Just a quick update. A little while back we purchased: 243c61d9db6231768178ae21237c71ef.gif because I felt that faerie.jpg was/is too small for me. A couple of nights ago, the newer/larger one was used on me and boy, what a sensation it created. I was squirming all over the place. I didn't orgasm from it at all, probably because I wasn't accustomed to the feeling of it "bottoming" out inside me. Last night I used it on Madam, resulting in 3 orgasms with some oral sex interspersed. Madam had only planned for one orgasm, but I kept pressing her for more:anim_46: She kept saying that she was doing it because she wanted to release me:angel:. That might have been true, but ultimately I wasn't released yet. Probably tonight though. Madam will let me out for intercourse since she says she likes feeling the ribs and veins on my body. I do feel I shall look for a more veiny (sp?) Silicone dildo for Madam's pleasure.

So I was unlocked for the weekend. On Sunday we went shopping and I noticed a set of small purple Masterlock locks. minifusion.gif Madam LOVES purple. The heads on the keys are also purple. This morning I asked Madam if she wanted me to put the CB back in. She responded that it is her time of the month, so I don't *have* to. I said that if she wanted me to, I would. She asked if I wanted to be locked up for such a long duration. I replied that it was up to her. She told me to lock it up and I asked if she wanted me to use the new purple lock or the stock one. Naturally, she chose the purple one. She is now wearing the key on a string around her neck along with a couple of other charms. Our kids have already asked what the key was for. Madam said it was for something special.

Can I ask where you found these locks? I think my wife would love the idea as well. She hasn't wanted to wear anything around her neck because a normal plain key just looks out of place there. This might help.

> xcitex2 said: > Can I ask where you found these locks? I think my wife would love the idea as well. She hasn't wanted to wear anything around her neck because a normal plain key just looks out of place there. This might help. > Click to expand... at Target! It came in a 4-pack with keys included. It is a lighter weight lock than stock, so it bounces around more than the standard brass lock. It will also rust (I assume). What's the worst that can happen if it rusts? You either: a) cut the lock off; b) are locked until WD-40 or PB Blaster eats through the rust; c) lose all hope for release:spider:

Just a bit of an update for anyone interested. I have been unlocked for a while now and I am having trouble getting comfortable wearing one again. The birdlock was a miserable failure, and the CB6K just isn't working comfortably right now. I am going to order the "S" cage and see if that helps or not. On Thursday night I drove out to the boondocks and on my way back asked Madam if she wanted anything from the adult toy stores in that area. She replied with a simple, "Surprise me." So I stopped at one of them (mistaking it for another one that is long closed down and bulldozed) to see what they had. Not many terribly interesting products there, just the normal assortment of dildos and movies. I ended up trying to choose between an inflatable butt plug or a new strap-on harness for Madam to be more comfortable in (she doesn't find our current one very comfortable). In the end, the harness with dildo was what I chose ($40). The next day I asked if she wanted me to put anything on or inside while getting ready. She said to put something in. So of course I obliged her. Later that evening after the kids went to bed, I asked if I could "bother" her and she consented so I started playing with her. She asked me to get the new strap-on, which I helped her put on. It fit quite well on her body. We continued playing for a bit and then she had me suck on the dildo; the look on her face when I did that was priceless. She went to take her hand to my head to help guide it up and down (a classic guy move), showing just how much she was enjoying it. Then we moved into the bedroom where I bent over the bed so she could enter me from behind. She was loving it so much that I was quite surprised she didn't orgasm while nailing me. Sadly, her body signaled to quit before either of us finished in that position, so we switched to a more vanilla position to complete things. We both finished but had to change the sheets on the bed:happy0030:. I think we are getting back into a good routine; time will tell.

Last night Madam took me with her strap-on while I was locked up and she actually had a full-blown orgasm during the act. It surprised me because there was nothing else inside her and no other stimulation besides her fucking me hard. Maybe she doesn't need me after all:confused0082:

Mmmm, delicious sub4madam... congratulations!!

I did end up getting the "S" cage and let me tell you that it is much better than either the plain one or the birdlocked version. I am back to being locked up. I have been since Tuesday with a short break on Thursday night (see above post). Actually, I was relocked right after that break, which isn't the normal course of events. Madam has also started calling me "boy" which I much prefer over when she calls me "sir".

I am liking to see the boy is enjoying what I have done and you will soon find out what I have inside of me. It might take a while; sorry about that.

Thank you Madam for posting in my thread. It will be interesting to see where things go as you know my limits and the reasoning behind them.:love0001:

:anim_63: So things are going along quite swimmingly. Madam plans on extending my lock-up periods. So far the best has been 7 days, and Madam intends to beat that record. Madam has asked me twice so far to go out and walk the dog at night in a skirt. The first time she only asked for the skirt. I said no and didn't do it because I live right in the city proper; I know my neighbors well enough that they would recognize me too easily as a guy in a skirt. The second time, we were in the car and she wanted me to wear heels and a wig as well. I asked if she was serious and she said "maybe". I responded that I would think about it. She told me to make my decision because she wasn't sure how soon or even if she really wants me to do it. If I decide to, I will definitely need to shave first. As mentioned in another thread, she has met a young lady who is very much like herself and I have encouraged her to date more than just friends if she wishes. Madam replied with a smile saying "MAY BEE". Funny thing is we were talking prior about her being with another woman but needing someone she could trust since the last one Madam trusted enough to do something with disappeared after Madam and I got married. This is definitely an interesting journey that I had not expected to be on, but I am enjoying it immensely except for the no-masturbation part:anim_63: I am also in the midst of designing a new bed frame for our bedroom featuring 4 posts and 5 drawers underneath. One drawer will slide out from the foot of the bed all the way back to the headboard:evilgrin010:. The hard part is actually doing it.

Congratulations. It sounds like things are going very well!:-):licking: mikecb

Mmmm, Mistress and I had a threesome with a hooker. There was nothing hotter than watching them kiss and then having both of them suck me off...but it was vanilla sex. I would love to serve Mistress and one or two girlfriends (or maybe three) wearing nothing but my leather restraints and jockstrap.

> mikecb said: > Congratulations. It sounds like things are going very well!:-):licking: > mikecb > Click to expand... yes they are... > chastityslavejohn said: > mmmm, Mistress and i had a 3some with a hooker. there was nothing hotter than watching them kiss and then having both of them suck me off...but it was vanilla sex. i would love to serve Mistress and a girlfriend (or 2...or 3) wearing nothing but my leather restraints and jockstrap. > Click to expand... The Hooker option is out; it must be someone Madam trusts. Another madam or mistress could work well too. Madam informed me that the lock up time starts at a baseline of 7 days, with extra days added as she sees fit. I already earned an additional day because I failed to give her at least one orgasm last night. I didn't realize she was interested then plus I wasn't feeling so hot myself. The soonest release will be next Saturday night.

BOY is doing okay; we shall see how it goes and are awaiting the bed being made. The walking of dog all dressed up seems to be becoming a necessity sooner than just a maybe. The other night was the BEST BOY has been in a long time. See you in the room:):butterfly:

just an update. About 4 days after Madam's post we lost our primary source of income so the bed is on the back burner. as of the 8th I am back locked in the CB6Ks. I did end up going down a ring size which does help alot in the cold, on the other hand it has made it much harder to sleep at night. I haven't slept straight through the night since and Madam says "Tough luck Boy!" so I will probably be in it for a while. This is already our longest stretch of me being locked. on the 15th I did give Madam 2.5 orgasms which she enjoyed immensely and had to fight herself (and me) from letting me out for a little:smilies_xxx12: she did however succeed. I myself am still torn as whether chastity is truly what I want or not. I do enjoy serving Madam. I do enjoy being tied up which madam did on sunday while we had the kids away for 3 hours. It was seriously the most fun I have had in a while, a few things could have made it better, but circumstances (and my behavior) prevented that. Part of what makes this whole lifestyle hard on me and Madam is I have ODD so I'm not always easy to deal with. Also having 3 kids with their own issues doesn't help much either. I really wish we had more time to ourselves, but a couple of hours a month is about all we get if we are lucky. I don't know what else to say right now so I'll sign off for the moment.

Last night I was let out for some Vanilla sex after a little teasing and Madam trying to decide if she wanted to or not. I am still because I am finally fixing one of the side pins that hasn't been properly secured for a while. I am also going to try going back to the regular CB6K rather than the s and see if that is a little more comfortable. I really do need to get a real belt, but no income=no money to spend on a real belt. Plus it needs to be a belt that is absolutlely undetectable under clothing (including hugs from my pre-teen daughter all the time). enough of my ramblings back to whatever is was that you shouldn't be doing.

Oh yes the real belt de lima... you know if I could figure out how to create the ideal device I think we could all be happy and rich on here! LOL

> xcitex2 said: > Oh yes the real belt de lima... you know if I could figure out how to create the ideal device I think we could all be happy and rich on here! LOL > Click to expand... yes we would be. Dam I was going to post something but now i forgot.

remebered what I was going to post. Madam was wearing her key around her neck as usual when I am locked up. Madam was working a book fair at our youngest son's school and a security guard that she flirts with asked her if the key was to her love and she replied in the affirmative. Madam expected him to ask how long, but he didn't. Back on to the update. Last night the glue had dried on my pin repair and I put back on the CB using the 6K cage rather than the 6Ks that I had been wearing. I did sleep a little better however I got reminded about 15 min ago why I switched into the 6Ks in the first place. I can sleep fine in the 6K but the day is not so good because it pulls the back of my sack and irritates it when seated. An issue I do not have in the 6Ks. I need a length somewhere in the middle of the 2 probably, maybe a 6Km needs to be made. so for the rest of the day I am out until after my shower then I will go back in to the 6K for night and change in the morning to the 6Ks. That seems like a lot of nuisance for me. Oh well so be life with Madam.

**When My Pins Broke** I went to a DIY and found nylon and nuts screws that matched the size hole.I drilled it out put the screws and nuts in,cut off the extra.If you want to go long term you can "hot Knife them" and them have to cut them off. Appoligize,for not posting for so long.But I will soon I have much,much news! mostly good.IWe might make the next gathering if it's a mid west one. love all sub4life:anim_37:

my pin hadn't broke, it just came out of the hole. It's glued back in now and had no issues for the 12hrs or so that I was wearing it before I took it off because of the 6k tube being too long for awake wear.

today we picked up Madam's new license plates. Just figured some might enjoy the picture.

> madamsboy said: > today we picked up Madam's new license plates. > Just figured some might enjoy the picture. > Click to expand... :happy0158: Too cool. I love it!!

> Goddess Jen said: >:happy0158: Too cool. I love it!! > Click to expand... in Illinois you can't get that plate (unless the rules changed). I attached to this post a pic of Madam wearing her key in her night shirt which highlights the key. Sorry for the poor quality, lighting in our bedroom isn't so good. maybe I'll fix the pic in a bit

> madamsboy said: > in Illinois you can't get that plate (unless the rules changed). > Click to expand... Nope. The # has to be at the end of the plate.

> Goddess Jen said: > Nope. The # has to be at the end of the plate. > Click to expand... or trucks at the front (b plate) sorry it's been a few years since I registered a car in chicago.

nice plate!

Yep, that is a great plate! For Illinois, the only things that come to mind are: something about somebody being #1, or a reference to 24/7, or using a 3 as an 'e', as some text-messengers like to do. So there still are possibilities.

Just for anyone wondering (doubt anyone is:-p) I added an AIM screen name to my profile. it is not one that is on all the time as I do have to keep things private, but when I'm on so is it (or so is the theory) AIM screen name: MadamZboy (note the "z" not "s") now back to trying to ignore my aching balls

well it looks like this weekend the kids will be away.:party0019: The question is what to do with free time we will have. Anyone have any suggestions?:love0071:

> madamsboy said: > well it looks like this weekend the kids will be away.:party0019: > The question is what to do with free time we will have. > Anyone have any suggestions?:love0071: > Click to expand... Let me see. You can always read a good book. Take in a movie together. Take a drive downtown to look at Christmas lights. Or......get nekid and have a hot kinky fuck fest. Whatcha think? Little bit of:69: &:sex022: &:bondage: &:hump: &:licking: and finally:anal: Sound like a good idea?

that is up to madam

From the look of the signature I would say a "fuck fest" is still 1 week 6 days away! Oh it's going to be great for you to have some *connection* time uninterrupted... I'm so jealous!:anim_25:

"actually that sig might change. Madam mentioned something about adding a week earlier today:mad0235:. When I asked her afterwards, she said she wasn't sure if she would or not because I am "working" and incessant phone calls do tend to aggravate me when they aren't business related. Some alone time will be nice, though this month we have had more together time than normal. a couple of days in vegas (business trip not very relaxing), and a 3 hour stint on a sunday (more like 2 once travel time was deducted). hopefully it will be a fun one. BTW MW it can still be a fuck fest even when the joystick is locked up. It just means strap-ons all around:bj:

"Well we are dog sitting once again and Madam brought up me walking him in a skirt, "wig", and as of yet to be procured top. This came up in discussion yesterday morning while we were in bed with what started off as cuddling and ended up with Madam having 2 orgasms. Tonight the kids go to my father-in-laws for the evening .

"as some of you may have read in Madam's post we had quite a bit of fun over friday night/ saturday. I spent friday night tied up, got taken mulltiple times with the strapon, got to have intercourse with Madam 2x, one time I was allowed to finish inside her. I did clean her up after that:licking: the second time time I had to pull out and choke it off. Madam had alot of fun and enjoyed using her rubber whip. it was a seriously enjoyable weekend. Me being dressed up while walking the dog didn't happen though. It was supposed to happen tonight but I haven't shaved (face)yet, vanilla life got in the way and killed the interest, plus it's that time of month now (good thing it waited past the weekend).

"Hey...looks like I was pretty close in guessing what you were going to do with your free time this weekend.:anim_63: Didn't I tell you that I was psychotic? OOPS...I mean, psychic?:love0063:

"he thought i was not wanting him to walk the dog the way we talked about this weekend so he did not shave tonight there still is one more night this time and in two weeks we get the dog for two weeks but something he might not know yet but we are most likely getting a dog:butterfly: i'll let you know as soon as i can if he does not get to it first.

"Madam, I know we are most likely getting the dog. we just have to figure out how we are paying for a fence to fence in the parking space so I don't have to constantly walk her.

> Goddess Jen said: > Hey...looks like I was pretty close in guessing what you were going to do with your free time this weekend.:anim_63: Didn't I tell you that I was psychotic? OOPS...I mean, psychic?:love0063: > Click to expand... psychic, psychotic, erotic, it's all the same:love0059:

"Well Madam just had her way and I shaved my face, put on a skirt, some low wedge boots, Madam's jacket and took the dog for a walk. I figured out the real reason Madam wanted me to do it, it has to do with her "job" of dog walking and out dispute of her wearing pants versus skirts.:innocent0009:

"got it boy i also get turned on by it i also lik ethat you are behaving it looks like my boy is being trained it will become a better life for us now yay:butterfly::sex020:

> bitchmadam said: > got it boy, i also get turned on by it. I also like that you are behaving. It looks like my boy is being trained. It will become a better life for us now. yay:butterfly::sex020: > Click to expand... Madam, I think we need to get you a browser with a punctuation checker. and my position still stands

"How did it feel taking the dog for a walk dressed like that? Amber

> Amber said: > How did it feel taking the dog for a walk dressed like that? > Amber > Click to expand... not really my thing. I did it because Madam wanted it. too close to home and the community I am part of wouldn't be to particularly happy if they knew about it. I would do it again, but probably go somewhere else like a forest preserve or someplace I am not likely to be spotted.

"well due to my poll I posted on here, I got an additional week in lock up:ugh: Tonight I know Madam has plans on enjoying herself at my expense. I'm still waiting for my body to get used to my CB where I can sleep through the night. In a little bit I think I will go read the contract.

> Madam, I think we need to get you a browser with a punctuation checker. > and my position still stands > Click to expand... Well I would think there is no surprise as to why you got the extra time.:rules: Hang in there with getting used to the CB at night it takes a little time. Bad news is once you get used to it you might find your Madam keeps you locked for longer periods!

> xcitex2 said: > Well I would think there is no surprise as to why you got the extra time.:rules: > Hang in there with getting used to the CB at night it takes a little time. Bad news is once you get used to it you might find your Madam keeps you locked for longer periods! > Click to expand... that I fully expect to happen the question remains, what will go along with it:nervous:

"xcitex2, u have gotten it correct if it so happens then i only have reason to let him out for my excitement not his:happy0030::butterfly:

"He need to be taught how to do house work. he does not do them that is one reason he keeps on getting his time locked up longer b/c it upsets me:anim_43: along with more reasons. it is getting harder to keep him happy since he is the one who has helped me get the way i am. and he is on now and all he has done is complain on my writing! he will be sorry b/c a day or two was just added so stop your complaining and maybe it will be one day;):butterfly::chores010:

> bitchmadam said: > He need to be taught how to do house work. he does not do them that is one reason he keeps on getting his time locked up longer b/c it upsets me:anim_43: along with more reasons. it is getting harder to keep him happy since he is the one who has helped me get the way i am. and he is on now and all he has done is complain on my writing! he will be sorry b/c a day or two was just added so stop your complaining and maybe it will be one day;):butterfly::chores010: > Click to expand... :repost: yes I enjoy aggravating Madam at times. She wanted to marry me, now she has to put up with me:-p

"Madam decided to do a little shopping today and has informed me that I will be doing a fashion show / modeling tonight. She won't say what she bought except that it goes under my clothes.

"yes i decided to marry you. but you helped me find the inner me. now you have to live with it:butterfly::jumping0046:

> bitchmadam said: > yes i decided to marry you. but you helped me find the inner me. now you have to live with it:butterfly::jumping0046: > Click to expand... you mean you aren't just doing it for me anymore?

"madamsboy I have to say I do enjoy your banter with your wife. You are much braver than I. It does sound however that you might be pushing the envelope a little. Can't wait to hear what she bought you. I hope you like the longer periods of lockup. Once she gets the taste of you pleasing her without you getting yoru needs met/only to deny you, you might start seeing the other side of this lifestyle. It is great and scary all at the same time. LOL

"no you have helped me be who i am and i am enjoying it you should too:butterfly:

> xcitex2 said: > madamsboy I have to say I do enjoy your banter with your wife. You are much braver than I. It does sound however that you might be pushing the envelope a little. Can't wait to hear what she bought you. I hope you like the longer periods of lockup. Once she gets the taste of you pleasing her without you getting yoru needs met/only to deny you, you might start seeing the other side of this lifestyle. It is great and scary all at the same time. LOL > Click to expand... I always push envelopes. It has to do with my ODD. Her mood may be a little off though she didn't have a good meeting tonight. it's almost 10 and Madam is still watching one of her shows so who knows.