Chastity and orgasm denial discussion

My partner wears a CB3000 cage, which we both like. However, he can slip out of it easily when flaccid. Points of Intrigue seem to cause him significant discomfort—I prefer that he retains some ability to have partial erections and endure the pressure constantly rather than getting sharp pain spikes from internal prongs during an erection. I’m worried KSD devices might be similar because they reportedly pinch heavily for “growers,” which describes my guy.

He measures roughly 1”-2” when soft and about 5” erect. Would a Phoenix Guardian with a 2-inch tube length provide good security? I’ve scanned previous discussions on these forums and haven’t found any major complaints regarding Phoenix units—only positive feedback. Does anyone have specific insights to share?

Another option is piercing him, possibly for a Lori-style device, which appeals to me greatly. He doesn’t share my fetish for piercings (though he’d accept my choice), and I don’t want to jump straight to such an invasive solution without exploring other options first.

Any personal experiences or recommendations would be great!

I am familiar with the CB6000s (the "s" denotes small size), and there is also a mini birdlock available. Perhaps another member here can add their experience on this topic. Good luck!

Hi Miss Sarah, I wouldn't advise a Lori tube. I had to return mine twice for adjustments, and it remained unusable. In fact, I started a discussion here: the referenced community page talking about my problems. It appears that very few people have succeeded with a Lori device among us members. My dimensions are quite similar to your sub's. So far, the modified CB3000 has worked best for me—I simply sawed out the "tube" section of the cage and used acrylic superglue to attach the cap directly to the base plate. This shortened the total length to about 1.5 inches, creating a snug fit, and took only around 45 minutes. For issues with pulling out, try a keepsake device (I’ve had decent results) or use a piercing secured by an extra **padlock**. Ultimately, I believe the metal belt option is your best bet for guaranteed security, which is where I am heading next. Hope this assists you, ~spiraled1

Thank you both! Regarding the modified CB3000—that sounds incredibly appealing. I’d love for him to wear something so restrictive (only 1.5 inches). Which keepsake device do you have in mind? I’m also curious about how a locked piercing would function specifically. Would it involve a captive bead ring placed, say, in the PA position, with an external **padlock** hooked through the internal ring? (Can a captive bead ring even fit into a PA hole?) It’s difficult to tell exactly from photos alone; my Google image search for "chastity piercing" didn’t yield very clear results. Thanks!

Hello, Yes, the modified CB3000 is quite constricting, but as long as it allows me to grow somewhat, it’s fairly easy for me to **orgasm**. The upside is that it is much less visible under clothing. I’ve uploaded some pictures of the device; they aren’t spectacular, but the modification is very effective and straightforward. I’d be glad to share more details if you’re interested. In fact, I’m thinking about reducing the length further into the 1-inch range. I suggest starting with a similar mod if your sub can reach climax in a standard CB3000 (assuming he can, given his size matches mine closely). There’s no need to worry excessively about pull-out issues if you confirm he can still cum inside it. Don't put the cart before the horse. If the modified CB3000 effectively prevents unauthorized **orgasm**s, then you can address pull-outs using various methods: either a KSD device (works for some, not others) or a piercing. A second **padlock**'s hasp can thread through the cage's pee hole and loop around a captive bead ring situated in the frenum or PA piercing. It becomes impossible to access that inner ring while his cock is secured inside. Personally, I don’t favor this option because the extra padlock feels bulky and uncomfortable. Alternatively, some people use a closed loop of cable or string: they secure the CBR around it before inserting the penis into the cage, then pull the loop out through the pee hole back to the main **padlock** that locks the CB3000. This prevents the penis from slipping backward because the loop is locked against the padlock at the cage's end. Others create a "noose" using rubbery string and looping it behind the glans without piercing, though this can be defeated by cutting the cable (though redoing it silently requires effort). In summary, if you want to try a device that traps the balls, focus on preventing climax first, then deal with pull-outs. You could spend ages making a device impossible to escape from only to discover he can still cum inside it. (Yes, I have wasted many hours doing just that!) Sorry for the lengthy reply—hope this helps! Let me know if you need clarification. ~spiraled1

Spiraled (maybe? lol), ...putting the cart before the horse, I love it! Chastity rules all mods!

lol yeah I guess I should have picked a device-neutral name! Now I'm stuck:(

Too funny, be careful what you wish for... and more careful with your name!:-)

Very helpful, spiraled1 - I have some technical questions about the mod but I will PM you. It comes down to personal preference, but I don't think belt devices are sexy - if I can't slap the balls around, I'm just not interested. At any rate the boy has not been able to achieve orgasm in his CB3000 so far. Thanks for the explanation of the piercing. (My friend was just explaining to me how to do a PA on him MYSELF but I'm not nearly that much of a badass. Holy crap! Hot, though.)

If it helps.. I have the Phoenix Guardian.. It's excellent, as it has the anti-pullout device, and Frank the owner is very helpful, with different sizes for different customers (I had to find one to fit me as i needed something larger than normal). If you want to ask questions on it, go for it.. happy to help gabby:cat:

Thanks gabby - I found your reviews very helpful (also very sorry for your unfortunate size issue).:anim_03: I'm not sure I understand the exact mechanism of the anti-pull-out measure on the Phoenix. (I didn't even understand how pull-out from a device could HAPPEN until the boy showed me.) But I have yet to hear that anyone can escape it. What do you think?

> mechantloup said: > Thanks gabby - I found your reviews very helpful (also very sorry for your unfortunate size issue).:anim_03: > I'm not sure I understand the exact mechanism of the anti-pull-out measure on the Phoenix. (I didn't even understand how pull-out from a device could HAPPEN until the boy showed me.) But I have yet to hear that anyone can escape it. What do you think? > Click to expand... You're most welcome.. and thanks for the Sympathy.. think of poor Mistress.K! hehe.. Um, I'll see if i can explain the anti-pullout feature.. if you look at the pictures on their website, you'll notice it naturally curves down (like the normal curves of the member), but has a plate that sits inside and holds the penis downward, preventing flop-around, but also makes it difficult (Almost impossible) to pull out from. By containing the member better, it actually fits the body a bit better (so i'm told, as i haven't compared against other devices). The Sapphire is out soon, and I'm told that will be a great device.. I'm hoping to give this one a try, in which it will fit the backing of the guardian, giving me options on which device to use.... I'll post feedback on that when i get one!! gabby:cat:

were you able to get a hold on that sapphire? How effective has that anti-pullout feature been for you?

Hi... Sorry for the late reply. I have attempted to get hold of the Sapphire. Last contact was that the Phoenix had just arrived, however, no further luck with hearing back about getting one. I'll definately post a review once i get one.. they look stunning, and apparently are great for the antipullout side of things. Add me as a friend if you want, and I'll make sure i let you know. gabby:cat:

Get the Phoenix! I have three different sizes and the penetration tube. I also have the Sapphire on order. Because of the pressure plate, it is extremely difficult to pull out. If you can get out, it is virtually impossible to sneak back in! I have the cb3000 and the rib cage also, and I can slip in and out at will. Without a piercing there is no security!