Chastity and orgasm denial discussion

The question of “How long should I lock him?” sparks plenty of debate and differing views. Instead of relying on other people’s advice—which might or might not suit you—why not let his body give the answer directly? Here’s a simple method to find that out: Step 1: Lock him up for one week. Step 2: Unlock him and have him masturbate for exactly 60 seconds. If he does NOT cum, put him back in the lock and wait another week before repeating the test. Clearly, he wasn’t locked long enough. Continue this weekly cycle until he finally cums within those 60 seconds. If he DOES cum, you have a solid idea of how long to keep him waiting between releases. This method offers several benefits: A: It is flexible. For instance, if you want him to develop a hair trigger, you can lower the time from 60 seconds down to 30 seconds. B: He won’t want to miss his opportunity to cum, so he will be motivated to let go as fast as possible. C: Many keyholders enjoy having more freedom for their own pleasure rather than masturbating their chaste partner until her arm feels like it might fall off. D: You can train him to cum quickly, which means he is less likely to pester you for extra stimulation. E: His body provides a reliable indicator of his ideal chastity duration. This removes your worry about milkings and other maintenance tasks. Stop worrying about what others do; his body handles it for you. Jason

Very scientific, almost clinical. Thanks for the suggestion. x > jasonpatalonis said: > The question of "How long should I lock him?" sparks plenty of debate and differing views. Instead of relying on other people's advice—which might or might not suit you—why not let his body give the answer directly? > Here’s a simple method to find that out: > Step 1: Lock him up for one week. > Step 2: Unlock him and have him masturbate for exactly 60 seconds. > If he does NOT cum, put him back in the lock and wait another week before repeating the test. Clearly, he wasn't locked long enough. Continue this weekly cycle until he finally cums within those 60 seconds. > If he DOES cum, you have a solid idea of how long to keep him waiting between releases. > This method offers several benefits: > A: It is flexible. For instance, if you want him to develop a hair trigger, you can lower the time from 60 seconds down to 30 seconds. > B: He won't want to miss his opportunity to cum, so he will be motivated to let go as fast as possible. > C: Many keyholders enjoy having more freedom for their own pleasure rather than masturbating their chaste partner until her arm feels like it might fall off. > D: You can train him to cum quickly, which means he is less likely to pester you for extra stimulation. > E: His body provides a reliable indicator of his ideal chastity duration. This removes your worry about milkings and other maintenance tasks. Stop worrying about what others do; his body handles it for you. > Jason > Click to expand...

This has a lot of mileage if you really think about it. Could your sub end up suffering from what is essentially premature ejaculation? It might work even for solo players. In both cases, reducing the time—say, from first touching his willy to climaxing—could be key. So, where do we start? Would 1 minute be possible from start to finish, omg. Xx Wendy

My wife uses a much simpler method. When another girlfriend asked her "When will you unlock her?" she replied: "When I want to" The lockup isn't about me; it's about her. Over the last five years, it has ranged from as little as three days up to 350 days. Currently, we are at 7 months.

> Kali said: > My wife uses a much simpler method. When another girlfriend asked her "When will you unlock her?" she replied: > "When I want to" > The lockup isn't about me; it's about her. > Over the last five years, it has ranged from as little as three days up to 350 days. Currently, we are at 7 months. > Click to expand... We get that point. Yours is the purest form of chastity. The rest of us are just pretending. Does she also tell you when to go to the bathroom? If there isn't much interaction between partners, I suppose your "do whatever she says" approach works well enough. In my case, most members here probably have some kind of interaction with their partners. My note was aimed at them. For those of you who are the bestest, most chastest, super-deluxe maximum chaste coolio's......I'd side with Kali. Does your wife give you extra credit for sanctimony? Jason PS, Yeah, I know the moderators will have to step in now.......I am sure they are quite tired of the "I am more chaste than you" comments......as well as us others who don't aspire to be that guy saying "this sub exists solely to please Her because I am dirt."

Hahaa here here jasonpatalonis! Well said!

> jasonpatalonis said: > We get that point. Yours is the purest form of chastity. The rest of us are just pretending. Does she also tell you when to go to the bathroom? If there isn't much interaction between partners, I suppose your "do whatever she says" approach works well enough. In my case, most members here probably have some kind of interaction with their partners. My note was aimed at them. > For those of you who are the bestest, most chastest, super-deluxe maximum chaste coolio's......I'd side with Kali. > Does your wife give you extra credit for sanctimony? > Jason > PS, Yeah, I know the moderators will have to step in now.......I am sure they are quite tired of the "I am more chaste than you" comments......as well as us others who don't aspire to be that guy saying "this sub exists solely to please Her because I am dirt." > Click to expand... Actually, the only one being sanctimonious here is you. You can pour all sorts of energy into figuring out ways to turn this into a game, or you can just get on with life and live with it. It isn't about looking cool, or being "dirt" (your kink, not mine); it's simply that your way isn't the only way. If you don't want comments about it, stop posting where others can read. Some of you put so much effort into figuring out ways to play games; it is amazing how anything else gets done in your lives. Of course, since this is the Internet, at least 90% of what appears is bullshit. Given your overly antagonistic response, we can assume that the "do it and enjoy life" approach hits a nerve for you. You also seem confused about what you are actually writing; you provide detailed instructions but then attack me based on an assumption that my life is micro-managed when that is exactly what your detailed level of instruction suggests. While some people have kinks (like yours) centered around that level of management, most just incorporate things like this into their daily lives and focus on living rather than minutiae. You could have ignored my response and moved on, but you seemed to decide attacking me for my opinion was the better choice. It is great that you have a partner willing to play your game with you. And that you have given her detailed instructions on how it should be played. This has nothing to do with real interaction; giving someone an instruction list doesn't build any bond between two people. In fact, it creates more separation because no actual interaction and bonding are necessary. Real interaction requires constant communication and emotional connection. And for someone with only 2 posts commenting on the ongoing behavior of forum moderators usually indicates a troll account or that they have been banned previously under another name. Which one is it? (FYI, that's a rhetorical question; I really don't care)

Thank you Jessica's Boy, and to everyone else who has voiced support or interest. I also thank Kali for sharing her opinion. A bump is a boost! On another note, the "60 second" test has been performed on me twice now. I am facing week #3. This isn't my personal record—it’s just over six weeks—but my wife and I have decided to see what my body really says based on our set criteria. Wendygirl is right that choosing 60 seconds arbitrarily can really mess with your head.

As a follow-up, it FINALLY happened. Last weekend I was experiencing my 60-second stroking by my wife and I finally came.....28 seconds! I lost count officially, but I estimate the program lasted exactly 8 weeks. My wife thinks this is hysterical. The proverbial "watch what you wish for" curse certainly applies here. She now won't even give me sixty seconds until we reach about six weeks..... Jason

28 seconds start to finish omg. I used to have a girlfriend who was besotted with this guy. She got him into bed only to find that if she didn't even touch his willy, he would climax as soon as he settled between her legs and reached for the tissues in about 20 sec. She gave him several goes over a couple of weeks but he never made it inside her fully!! Xx Wendy

Just for the record, I like reading people's very specific scenarios. I love getting into their kinks and what really turns them on, so when people ask what I want to do, I turn it around and say: "What you want is to facilitate their fetish." Xx Wendy

it's no good for me having all that 60-second thingy cos im milked. But if i did have it i don't think i wud ever be able to do it that quick.

Wendy, You are right. The implications for my ability to have intercourse are quite clear. My wife hasn't said it outright, but I think her bemused response is because she realizes this process will render me unable to have intercourse with her. She more or less does not allow me intercourse anymore. I am sure if I insisted as her husband she'd let me. But now that I appear to be conditioning myself for premature ejaculation, there may no longer be a choice in the matter.

So this is then very deep and sort of scary yet very interesting. I wonder if you could be conditioned to climax through masturbation (becoming PE) but if you made love to your Mistress would you last longer?? Xx Wendy

That is a good question Wendy. I believe that with careful conditioning anything is possible. My own feeling and fear is that I am now virtually a premature ejaculator. Since my next 60-second stroking session by her won't be for another month and a half, I guess I will cum very quickly next time too. The emotional hard part for me when she was stroking me was that I WANTED to cum quickly because I had already waited eight weeks. I knew I would only get one minute.....I strongly preferred prematurely ejaculating over waiting another week with full glands.

I think my Maitresse might like this; it gets the process over and out of the way quickly, so She can go on to more pleasant activities for Her.. like torturing me...:)

> jasonpatalonis said: > Wendy, > You are right. The implications for my ability to have intercourse are quite clear. My wife hasn't said it outright, but I think her bemused response is because she realizes this process will render me unable to have intercourse with her. > She more or less does not allow me intercourse anymore. I am sure if I insisted as her husband she'd let me. But now that I appear to be conditioning myself for premature ejaculation, there may no longer be a choice in the matter. > Jason > Click to expand... I can relate. I find that whenever Mistress Suzan is involved with my release, I cannot last as long as when I am required to masturbate myself in front of her or her mentor/GF. Both agree it proves that I am no longer adequate to satisfy a woman through intercourse, and that is a beneficial result of chastity! dickinbraces

I can see I am in good company DS. Thank you for the comment.

I really like this idea. What I like it for is conditioning me to have a hair trigger. I already don't last long during intercourse (maybe 5 minutes?). I would love for my tiny cock to become completely useless to women by only lasting 30 seconds.

JD, Thanks for the post. It is definitely training me for the hair trigger. Yesterday, I was laying down for my weekly 60-second session. It's been about four weeks since my last cumming. Sure enough, I let go in about 25 seconds. The discussion of intercourse is now completely out of the question. Imagine a chaste man who can go a month or more without cumming but lets go in mere seconds...... All part of my wife's design? Who knows.

I wonder how quickly you would learn to cum if your time kept getting reduced. Can you imagine not being able to last more than five or ten seconds?

As it was, I was trying to hold back.....I can plainly see this conditioning leading to utter premature ejaculation. It's the perfect crime: I would like to hold back, but if I do, it could be another month before I get to cum. So I can't really fight it.

My KH has promised we shall try the monthly race for 30 seconds starting soon. If I manage 30 seconds, she will reduce the next time by five seconds. I'll report back with the results. Naturally they will be ruined orgasms.