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I lead with what I will not do and I think it costs me replies

Posted as limits_first_line, 1 September 2026, from the west

Wants
a woman who reads a list of limits as information rather than a complaint
Experience
Seven years, one dynamic of three, several conversations that stalled.
Around
the west, London

I put my limits in the first message. Every time. I have been told this is off putting, presumptuous and a bit rude, and I have thought about it seriously and I am still doing it, so I may as well explain myself in public.

Thirty six, the west, seven years in. Here is the reasoning. The alternative is four weeks of pleasant conversation followed by an awkward evening where it turns out the whole thing was never going to work, and I have had that evening three times. It is worse. It wastes her time far more than mine, because she has forty of these conversations running and I have one.

So: no pain of any kind, ever. Nothing that leaves a mark. Nothing involving anybody else in the room. Those are not negotiating positions, they are not squeamishness that will soften with familiarity, and they have not moved in seven years.

What is left is a great deal. Service, protocol, rules that run through a week, correction that is verbal and cold rather than physical, and being genuinely useful in somebody's household. The one arrangement I have had that worked ran three years on exactly that and neither of us ever felt anything was missing.

If a list of limits in a first message reads to you as a man telling you what to do, I understand, and we would not have suited each other. If it reads as somebody saving you a month, write back.

Where this one puts you on the route

This is somebody standing where you are standing. Before you write a better version of it, the two stages behind you are worth a second look.

  1. 02 Why this takes longer than ordinary dating
  2. 02 Being findable instead of searching harder
  3. 04 You are applying, not shopping

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